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Film » A Forgotten Song from Billboard Girl: "For You" » Yesterday 3:28 pm |
I recently rewatched Bing's movie Billboard Girl, a 1932 short movie that he did with Mack Sennet and one of the songs featured in it, "For You," stood out to me. I was surprised to discover that Bing never made a commercial recording of this song. It's such a lovely piece and seemed like it had the potential to become a hit. Interestingly, Bing performed it three times on his radio show in 1931. However, it's no surprise the song was eventually forgotten—it wasn't available in record shops, and it appears that no one else recorded it during that year. Also, the Hollywood of Bing collection focuses on songs from after 1934, leaving this overlooked.
It's rather curious, considering that Bing was recording many songs during that period and often turned his movie songs into records. The song also served as a theme in the picture's overture.
"For You" was written in 1930 by Joe Burke and Al Dubin. The film was shot in 1931 and released in 1932. Later, the song was covered by notable artists such as Perry Como, Dean Martin, Rosemary Clooney, and Patti Page. It even became a hit when Ricky Nelson recorded it in 1964. Despite this, Bing never included "For You" in his later radio shows or made a record of it.
In 1933, Brunswick Records (while Bing was working there) released a recording of "For You" performed by a dance band. In 1937, Decca Records (which had Bing under contract at the time) released another version featuring Kenny Sargent as the vocalist.
It is a very nice song and it could have becomce a very nice record with Bing and some nice arrangment.
This is the link to the movie version of the song:
Television » Two Bing Documentaries from 77/78 » 02/4/2025 7:36 pm |
I recently watched The Life and Legend of Bing Crosby. This one truly stood out as a masterpiece of the genre. It showcased an incredible amount of archival material and featured invaluable interviews, truly documenting living history. Documentaries like these are not only precious but vital, as they preserve important aspects of our heritage. Despite its quality, this documentary has not been widely distributed. However, it is available on YouTube, where it has garnered around 10,000 views. Unfortunately I have not seen the other ones.
New and Re-issued materials » Nostalgic Radio Sounds for a Cozy Evening, 1950s Bing Crosby Show » 26/3/2025 10:21 pm |
Here is the link,
New and Re-issued materials » Nostalgic Radio Sounds for a Cozy Evening, 1950s Bing Crosby Show » 26/3/2025 10:19 pm |
There is a new interesting release by BCE, described as "Bing Crosby’s original 1950s Radio Shows are now available on Bing Crosby’s YouTube channel! Cozy up and hear Bing chat about life, music, and more—all while crooning timeless ballads in your living room" the release earlier today seems to have gained some digital attention. I always though of radio as the medium most suited to Bing's talents and it is nice to see that they are using radio episodes to promote his legacy, I am a huge fun of his radio work but I haven't yet heard all episodes available so I am not sure from what year this was taken for.
Recording » New Tricks » 24/3/2025 6:56 am |
At the very end of his long-standing collaboration with Decca, New Tricks is a pleasant surprise. I greatly enjoy Buddy Cole's sound, and, of course, Bing Crosby's vocals are superb. The selection of songs, remastered from his radio program, is excellent. With Cole's arrangements and accompaniment, Crosby's remarkable voice, and a fine selection of standards perfectly suited for the combination, New Tricks is truly a winning album.
Member Introductions » Welcome Alan! » 24/3/2025 6:46 am |
Welcome!!
Recording » Bing's Irish Records » 23/3/2025 7:23 pm |
Blonde56 wrote:
Pantelis, Really? I never knew that. But we will send Ian there anyway! Just joking Ian. Lol! Love the Quiet Man movie. Maureen O'hara's brothers are in that movie, they were handsome! Maureen was always Great with the Duke!
I never knew that Maureen O'Hara's brothers were in the film. She was one of my favorite movie stars, and I still remember the sad day she passed away when I was 11. It was said at the time that she had just listened to the music from the film—'The Isle of Innisfree.
Recording » Bing's Irish Records » 22/3/2025 10:51 am |
Ian Kerstein wrote:
It's beyond beautiful and makes me want to visit there.
Though the Isle of Inisfree is an entirely fictional location in The Quiet Man, the village of Cong in County Mayo in Ireland was actually used to bring the fictional Isle of Inisfree to life.
Recording » Bing's Irish Records » 21/3/2025 11:32 pm |
The 1951 Decca recording was arranged by the good old John Scott Trotter. Bing did a second version in 1966 for A Little Bit of Irish, featuring the marvelous Little Dublin Singers. This time Buddy Bregman served as the orchestra conductor, and I’m assuming he also handled the arrangements
Recording » Bing's Irish Records » 16/3/2025 6:16 pm |
My favorite Irish tune is "I'll Take You Home Again, Kathleen." It is such a truly emotional song, and I adore Bing Crosby's version as well as the one performed by the vocal group Sons of the Pioneers. The latter was the first version I heard as a child as featured in the 1950 John Ford film Rio Grande, starring John Wayne and Maureen O'Hara. Interestingly, the lyric "since first you were my ... bride" differs among versions: Bing sings "bonnie bride," while the Pioneers sing "blushing bride," which is the original phrasing. I wonder if Bing had a different lyrical version in his hands or if he made the change by mistake.
Bing as he stated in his 1966 Dublin special "had a musical love affair with Ireland" since he heard "The Rose of Tralee," by John McCormack, a record he owned as a child in Spokane. Bing later recorded the best version of the song for Decca in 1945. A lovely and really sweet song.
Of course, the most famous Irish song Bing ever recorded was "Galway Bay," that was written by the Irish immigrant Dr. Arthur Colahan in 1947. Later that same year, Bing Crosby recorded the song, making it famous worldwide. His record reached No. 3 on the U.S. Billboard charts.
Victor Young, the prolific and talented composer conductor and arranger that worked with Bing many times (Home on the range, Country Girl, Emperor Waltz, Connecticut Yankee,) played a significant role in shaping Irish music as we now know it. Young was connected with Bing's iconic records such as "Galway Bay," "The Rose of Tralee," and "When Irish Eyes Are Smiling." Furthermore Victor Young's work composing the score of John Ford irish themed films like The Quiet Man (1952) that introduce the Isle of Inisfree (written a year earlier) into the general public, Bing included the song in his Irish 1966 special with a children choir creating a truly magical moment that showcased the enduring beauty of Irish music.
Film » Who is your favorite leading lady that starred with Bing in the 1950s? » 11/3/2025 10:20 pm |
Now that I think of it Ian,
The closest to a teaming of Bing Crosby was his long-time partnership with Bob Hope, they worked together on a film series the Road pictures surpassing the success of other recurring collaborations (that was closer in nature with William Powell-Myrna Loy Thin Man films than the Laurel-Hardy team, Powell and Loy did the pictures together but there were always engaged in independent projects as well while Laurel and Hardy worked together almost exclusively). They worked together in films, stage, radio and television for nearly 37 years though they never became an official team.
I always felt that Bob Hope (one of the most entertaining performers ever) was pushing for a more-close to partnership, for instance Bing was almost always included in Bob Hope pictures as a cameo or by including a Crosby joke for instance in his Lemon Drop Kid film with Marilyn Maxwell he ends the picture kissing Marilyn and saying to a cow who groans “quiet Crosby”. And he always mentioned Bing in his radio shows, Bing used him as hoke material more rarely.
Despite the popular belief that they were not close with each other, Bing and Bob were in reality great friends, the fact that no one was each other’s best friend doesn’t mean that they relationship was only professional. They lived near each other in Toluca Lake, Bing and Dixie stayed with Bob and Dolores when his house was burned in 1943, Bing and Kathryn stayed with Bob and Dolores in England during the filming of Road to Hong Cong. Bing and Bob worked together in the war effort, traveled on the Victory Caravan, played hundreds of golf rounds, maintain a regular correspondence, spoke often in the phone, and socialize frequently on the same country clubs, in his book Call My Lucky Bing shares numerous stories about Bob in many different surroundings, Bing also invited him to buy a property near his Mexico house even if he didn’t go through with it and they both invest in numerous projects togeth
Film » Who is your favorite leading lady that starred with Bing in the 1950s? » 11/3/2025 9:58 pm |
I am always dazzled Ian, by your immense knowledge of all those rare and fascinated contextual stories on so many legends. I knew that Astaire (my favorite dancer of all times) was annoyed with the pairing of Ginger Rogers, his daughter Ava said that they worked well but from what I have heard they didn’t have a personal chemistry and never socialized beside the obvious screen one. I didn’t know that he didn’t like it from the beginning I always though that he grew tired of the audience perceiving them as a team.
Following the remarkable success of Holiday Inn and Blue Skies, Paramount sought to replicate the winning formula, Bing Crosby and Fred Astaire in their third Irving Berlin musicals. Work on the project began as early as 1948, the new movie was written specifically for Bing and Fred but Astaire expressed his dissatisfaction with the script and turned it down. His 1948 decision to turned it down was partly because his intention to retire after the success of Blue Skies. However, MGM quickly turned him around offering him the lead opposite Judy Garland in Easter Parade engaging him in a long contract with MGM the rival studio to Bing’s Paramount After some delays, Bing Crosby almost withdrew from the project due to the tragic passing of his wife, Dixie. Ironically Fred Astaire wife was also ill the same period and die just few weeks before the release of White Christmas. Donald O’Connor was cast opposite Crosby when Bing revived the project in 1953 Astaire, I think was unavailable at the beginning of the year but he probably was not asked again due to his MGM contract. Danny Kaye was great in the movie but I always loved Fred Astaire he was the greatest dancer of all and a great actor.
Bing was also paired with Rhythm Brothers at the beginning but decided to avoid pairings in his entire career so he didn’t have to dissolve one later one but just to be careful to not make one, the same was true in his radio programs in 1930s and 1940s the semi-re
Books » What Are Your Favorite Bing Crosby Books » 11/3/2025 7:50 am |
Ian Kerstein wrote:
Also, speaking of the family member's literary efforts, a nod towards Kathryn's perhaps less known "Bing and Other Things" from the middle nineteen-sixties. Although my late brother for some reason found the title eccentrically hilarious, I found the book very well written, quirky, curious but fairly revelatory. Although at the same time, I found it still managed to preserve the intrigue of their marriage.
Well said Ian!! I feel that Bing and Other Things is the best book from the three that Kathryn wrote. In it's 180-page the octavo-size memoir published by Meredith Press in 1967 is the only book covering Kathryn’s childhood, her showbussines debut, while giving an intimate portrait of Bing and their vivid life together. The book is built in a spinal structure where focuses on a specific chapter of her life. She also employes rare literary devices. The chapter "Becoming Nurse, The Hard Way" is by far the best chapter that Kathryn ever wrote, the letter device she uses there, results in a literary masterpiece.The dialogues she included in some of the chapters were very humorous very inteligent. She was very talented author and that was her best ever project, the book was more well-written than the more carefully crafted memoirs of the later decades, Bing and Other Things got a spontaneous style, a direct narration aproach that was creating the illusion of intimacy.
Film » Who is your favorite leading lady that starred with Bing in the 1950s? » 11/3/2025 6:50 am |
I hope that it will make you happy Ian to know that as far as I know she wasn't dubbed, her own voice was always used at leat in the Crosby pictures.
Jane Wyman is a very strong choice, Bing I suspect intentionaly avoided to work with the same leading lady in more than two pictures, (except the Road pictures+Dixie that helped to form a stronger connection with Dorothy Lamour, there was the excuse of the franchise there), almost half of his leading ladies were employed for two pictures specially in 1940s.
Bing I am guessing liked sometimes the on-screen chemsitry and also liked on personal level many of his co-stars but he didn't wont to be part of a team like Astaire-Rogers and all the others pairings you mentioned Ian, perhaps he might considere it a limitation. Except Mary Carlisle and Dotorhy Lamour is like an invisible two-movie clause is in place, cause no one else was able to do a third picture with Bing.That way he could use the advantage of repeating a succesfull collaboration without making a potential limited permanant pair, as he did with Jane Wyman, Grace Kelly, Mary Martin, Marjorie Reynolds, Joan Caulfield, Kittie Carlisle, Joan Bennet, Ethel Merman, Martha Raye, Shirley Ross, Nicole Maurey, making two pictures with all of them. There is not another actor with that pattern that I know, there only few the one-pictures co-stars like Rhonda Fleming, Coleen Gray Madge Evans, Ann Blyth, Carole Lombard, Miriam Hokpkins, Marion Davies, Joan Fontaine, usually due to them not being in conctract with Paramount (Davies for MGM, Fleming for Selzinck, Blyth for Universal, Kitty Carlisle and Coleen Gray being fired from Paramount) or having demanding scedules in the studio, only twice in his 50 years in show bussines did a third picture with the same leading lady only with Mary Carlisle and Dorothy Lamour.
That's the reason i would say that although he worked with Bob Hope for so many years, for so many movies, in radio, in television, on
Film » Who is your favorite leading lady that starred with Bing in the 1950s? » 10/3/2025 10:27 am |
I voted for Grace Kelly and it was an easy vote. I do not liked Inger Stevens she played a good part in a nice movie but she was not a great actress and she was not a classic Hollywood beauty. Dorothy Lamour was great but she did her prime work in the 1940s.
Nancy Olson (1928-) is the only one alive on this list at the age of 96 she was cute and a nice actress, Mr. Music was a good movie that had potentials to be a great one with nice songs. Nancy Olson was good even if they did not have a great chemistry on screen, she was a good actress though and demonstrated her talents classics such Sunset Boulevard.
Jane Wyman was one of the most talented actresses, that Bing worked with. In both Here Comes the Groom and Just for You Bing and Jane introduced an academy award nominated song, making them one of the most successful musical collaborations in the history of the Oscars, and their song In the Cool Cool Cool of the Evening won the award of 1951. She was a magnetic singer, and a great actress her ranking in the poll is justifiable yet still not my favorite.
Rosemary Clooney was a tremendous singer, great voice really with a unparallel vocal chemistry with Bing, she was the most suited duet partner of his entire career and I liked her a lot, her performance and on-screen interactions with Bing in White Christmas and specially in their duet “When I am worried and I can’t sleep I could of Blessings Instead of Ship” were magical but still she wouldn’t be my favorite co-stars.
Nicole Maurey was a talented actress, she made few Hollywood films, and she became famous in her country only after Bing did with her Little Boy Lost, she was originally cast as the hotel owner niece a secondary role, but the last moment they switched Collete Dereal the original leading lady was demoted to the niece role and lend her singing voice to the new star. She was talented and had a great speaking voice. She starred next year with Charlton Heston in
Film » Who is your favorite leading lady that starred with Bing in the 1950s? » 10/3/2025 10:23 am |
After the 1930s and 1940s polls it is time for me to revisit that 1950s poll, and a 1960s one will be also a good idea.
Others of Note » Kitty Kallen - Moonlight Becomes You » 09/3/2025 2:53 pm |
Are all those interviews that you have take like this one or the Mary Carlisle one available somewhere? I will love to read them.
Film » Who is your favorite leading lady that Bing starred with in the 1940s? » 09/3/2025 11:36 am |
I voted for Joan Caulfield after spending the whole morning considering my options, it was a tough one, in 1940s Bing got the most talented co-stars than any other decade. Marjorie Reynolds was very pretty and radiant, and a good actress, Mary Martin was indeed multi-talented performer and Dorothy Lamour was also radiant, pretty with a great voice and superb comedy timing, she was a good actress and I adored the Road movies I recently show Dixie the film too.
It was a tough choice, Joan Fontaine is the most talented actress of them all I believe that she was one of the best actress of the golden age, and she deserved the Oscar for her wonderful perfrormance in Rebecca (she lost) and for her performance in Suspicion (she won over her sister Olivia De Havilland) she gave a great performance showcasing her acting range in The Emperor Watz, she was simply captivating and I like her a lot, she was really great. Also I wish to see her Bing Crosby Show episode but I do not have it.
Ann Blyth (1928-) the only one in the list still alive and the earliest alive Academy Award nominee (nominated in 1945 for best supporting actress in Mildred Pierce) at the age of 96 is a very good actress and mighty talented too. Also got a nice chemistry with Bing and a fine singing voice.
Ingrid Bergman is also very beautiful and talented actress winning more Oscars and BAFTA and Tony than all Bing's co-stars of all decades. Her wonderful performance in The Bells of St Mary was one of her finest roles and made it tough to not choose her, she was magical and a great actress - I almost voted for her- and it's dissapointing that she does not rank higher in the poll.
Rhonda Fleming became a star after the Connecticut Yankee and was one of the prettiest, she most definately filmed better in technicolor than anyone else in Hollywood, her hair, her eyes and her skins shade maked her look divine under the Technicolor cameras and rightfully proclaimed Queen of Technicolor.
But my personal favorit
Film » Who is your favorite leading lady that Bing starred with in the 1940s? » 09/3/2025 11:30 am |
I am Reviving the old polls for the benefit of new members
Others of Note » Kitty Kallen - Moonlight Becomes You » 08/3/2025 11:19 pm |
Thanks for the post! It is the best female cover of the song that I have heard.
Member Introductions » Welcome Mr. A » 08/3/2025 11:18 pm |
Welcome Aboard!
Television » Oscars » 07/3/2025 8:27 pm |
Blonde56 wrote:
Pantelis, I love John Ford movies too! John Wayne movies. I love so many movies and stars from the 20's up until the 80's. Then things started to get boring. Oh sure there is still some good stuff around but not on the same level. I guess we agree on this. Others may feel the opposite and that is fine. To each their own. Thanks Pantelis!
He is my favorite director Carmela! I have seen all his movies with John Wayne and my favorite was Fort Apache (the first I saw) although Searchers must be the greatest picture ever made in all genres. Ford and Wayne really did some great classics like She Wore a Yellow Ribbon, Rio Grande, Stagecoach that Bing Crosby did a remake in 1966, though Bing did a great job portraying the Doc Boone one of his finest acting jobs ever, there were many good actors involved like Ann-Margret, Van Heflin, Bob Cummings, Stefanie Powers etc. but the movie is not favorable compared to the original. Also, I believe that the Ford locations were spectacular, the Monumental Valley in the Navajo country in Arizona. Is a lifetime dream to go there one day. I just adored all those movies I have seen them hundreds of times literally.
Film » Who is your favorite leading lady that Bing starred with in the 1930s? » 07/3/2025 4:26 pm |
Ian Kerstein wrote:
Yes, it's so difficult with that amount of talent to chose from. Mary Carlisle, David was perhaps the best one most romantically suited to Bing. Playful empathy and such a beautiful light comedic touch.
Thats the word Ian, romantically suited to Bing....Playful empathy
Film » Who is your favorite leading lady that Bing starred with in the 1930s? » 07/3/2025 4:17 pm |
Mary Carlisle died in 2018 at the age of 104. She was the last surviving co-star from the 1930s. Now, the oldest must be Ann Blyth from Top O' the Morning (1949); she is 96, 97 in August. The surviving stars from the golden age are very few now. The wonderful Mitzi Gaynor (Anythign goes, 1956) died at age of 93 in October and Barbara Rush (Robin and the Seven Hoods, 1964) passed away last March at the age of 97. There are only few left now but all of their work remains immortal.
Film » Who is your favorite leading lady that Bing starred with in the 1930s? » 07/3/2025 3:58 pm |
I voted few years later than most, for Mary Carlisle. I believe she was my favorite leading lady of the 1930s, but it was a hard choice. Joan Bennett was also a very nice actress, and Ida Lupino had a nice chemistry with Bing. Carole Lombard was one of the most talented, and Marion Davies was the only one billed above him due to her star status for so many years and Joan Blondell had something special. Leila Hyams was really pretty and Kitty Carlisle was delightful as a Russian Grand Duchess. Shirley Ross was more associated with Bob Hope, but she was a talented performer who was sadly forgotten later, though Bob always mentioned her name when introducing Thanks for the Memories. Madge Evans was also pretty and very talented and had one of the longest careers among them all. Hungarian Franciska Gaal was very convincing in one of her few Hollywood movies, and Louise Campbell was a gentle actress missing the Hollywood glamour though that flourished in theater. Frances Farmer gave a nice performance and her personal tragedy is really shocking. Miriam Hopkins was also mutli-talenetd, Judith Allen was a good actress, Ethel Merman was a very rare entertainer with immense musical talent. All of his leading ladies were special, pretty and talented so the choice was really hard. Though most of them were not superstars (Lombard and Davies must have been the only ones with comparable to Bing status at the time) they all had a quality above the average starlets.
But Mary Carlisle will have to be my favorite.She had a rare chemistry with Bing, and she also had a nice speaking voice, which is very important for an actress. When Bing serenaded his leading ladies on-screen, Mary Carlisle always made it easy to picture the scene as a realistic romance. They also danced very nicely in All You Want to Do Is Dance. She had very rich facial expressions, allowing her to just sit and listen to Bing and act silently alongside his crooning in so many numbers like Moonstruck, It's