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Recording » 'Let It Snow' and 'Little Jack Frost' » 16/12/2024 8:32 pm |
I do not now anything about subconstracting arrangments but I guess that is is almost human imposible for one single musician to arrange so many songs per week for the radio shows that Bing was doing plus the Decca recordings. Bing always spoke highly of him and he was indeed a talented man even if his legacy is not the one he deserved.
Artistic Legacy » Possible new Road film » 16/12/2024 6:20 am |
I agree Bing was still a great actor and singer in 1960s, he have done a lot of interesting project during that decade but he could have done much more specially later in that decade.
Artistic Legacy » Possible new Road film » 14/12/2024 10:13 pm |
What a breathtaking list of unmade projects that would be wonderful to see. It is sad that Bing didn't made any more movies, not that we have any right to complain he made 70 pictures, but he was a great actor and able to do a lot of things on screen, I believe that he prioritize the musical side of his career which is understandable but he could have made even more movies specially in 1960s and 1970s when he had the time to spare, reading Day By Day you can understand that It would have been almost impossible to made more movies in the 1940s or late 30s when he was making three movies per year, a weekly radio show, recordings and so much more. But we will always wish to see more. I was unaware of this list. Most impressive!
Artistic Legacy » Possible new Road film » 14/12/2024 10:01 pm |
Road to Paris, Road to Calcuta, Road to Tomorrow, Road to the Moon, Road To Christmas, Road to the Fountain of Youth, it is very sad that all those movies weren't made.
Others of Note » Russ Columbo - Where The Blue Of The Night » 14/12/2024 2:53 pm |
Russ Columbo had a fine voice but I agree with you, it is impossible to record a competitive version of Bing's theme song, Where the blue of the night is a wonderful song that Bing recorded multiple time in his long career, my favorite one is the 1945 version for Decca but the 1931 version for Brunswick was also great. 1931 was a pivotal year for both. Russ Columbo recorded his most remembered song Prisoner of Love and Bing Crosby started his 31-season regular radio show, break in movies with Sennet and recorded hits like his theme song, Just One More Chance, I Found A Million Dollar Baby, Out of Nowhere, At Your Command etc. Thanks for posting
Recording » 'Let It Snow' and 'Little Jack Frost' » 12/12/2024 10:08 pm |
Very interesting observation, I am a fan of John Scott Trotter while I agree that Bing shouldn’t relied so much on the same arranger. But Trotter had an immense versality.
There is some true to the accusation that he had a tendency to be repetitive, Lionel Pairpoint mentioned a lot of similarities between Trotter’s arrangement but this one was not included. But still his work was so important, he was one of the most prolific arrangers of his time and able to deal with an immense workload without producing cheap unimaginative arrangements, all his work had a basic quality though not always maintaining the same level.
Bing Crosby would be the best judge of that and according to Lionel Pairpoints book that is available on our club’s website Bing said that Trotter was “very good with a mervellous taste….(and his arrangements were) never obtrusive.. always in good taste’.”
I never had noticed it before you posted It and you are right it is the same intro. Trotter did the arrangement on both and it is a Christmas themed intro that suits well both songs. He was often reusing some parts of his arrangements on radio tracks. I guess it was not easy to detect them then cause radio show weren’t easily available and it would be rare to hear both together and almost impossible to remember it. After all he was doing hundreds of arrangements each year for Bing’s radio show.
Artistic Legacy » Possible new Road film » 12/12/2024 9:41 pm |
Very nice clip, he seems to know exactly what he wanted. The movie must have been very close to main shooting when Bing died three weeks later. Bing had the ability to always keep up with each era, he didn't try to understand the audience, he was one of the people and never forget it, he was always enjoying other artists work and was trying to make the best out of every project he ever did. Not doupt the movie would have been a great succes. The synopsis also would be interesting to be discovered one day.
Artistic Legacy » Possible new Road film » 09/12/2024 1:44 pm |
The Road to the Fountain of Youth would have be a masterpiece not doubt. I have met too Joan Collins on a summer in Hydra Island she is a very enchanting lady.
The movie was in pre-production at the time of Bing’s death. If Bing had lived only one year more, we would have a new road film and a couple of more Ken Barnes album-at least.
There was a lot of talk for many road movies that they were never made. After Road to Hong Kong they decided to make a Road to Bombay on location in India using some tax benefits but that never happened. For several years Bing and Bob though to make another Road picture sometimes mentioned as the Road to Tomorrow, if I am not mistaken Dorothy Lamour was the one that didn’t fully cooperate perhaps holding some grudge on their decision to demote her on Road to Hong Kong.
In 1977 Sir Lew Grade was charged with the production of the 8th road picture The Road to the Fountain of Youth for which Melville Shavelson had write a completed script.
Bob Hope considered the option to make the movie without Bing with George Burns as his co-sta. But for unknown reasons that didn’t happen.
The script of that picture though must be somewhere probably getting dust on some storage space. It would be a treasure to see it-if ever discovered.
Others of Note » New Crosby Brothers release-The Ed Sullivan Show » 06/12/2024 11:14 am |
The Ed Sullivan Show YouTube channel made available two previously unreleased video with Bing’s sons Philip, Denis and Lindsay (Gary didn’t appear on those shows). Both Bing and Dixie had musical talents and it seems that their 4 boys inherited the family voice. There isn’t a point in comparing anyone with Bing, but the boys had fine vocals and some of that Crosby charm.
This is from the The Ed Sullivan Show that aired live in May 7, 1961, it is a medley of Bing’s hits with a humorous introduction.
This number is called “Walk It Of” from The Ed Sullivan Show that aired live in February 25, 1962
For the history, the four Crosby sons formed a vocal group that sometimes was billed as Crosby Boys or Crosby Brothers. The boys were always exposed in show business first through their father radio shows and they all made their first movie appearance in Duffy’s Tavern in 1945.
Gary was the first to pursuit a solo career as a singer (with a golden record for his duet Play A Simple Melody and Sam’s Song), as radio host of CBS Gary Crosby Show and as an actor (he was a 20th Century Fox contract player) and had perhaps the most successful career of the four, co-starring in popular movies in early 60s, recording for Decca, performing with his father, Louis Armstrong, Sammy Davis Jr and with his brothers.
In 1958 the Crosby’s were featured on the cover of Life magazine. And they started making a series of TV appearances on prime time shows of the era. Finding huge success in Las Vegas and New York City’s top nightclubs appearing famously on Cartier Latin and Desert Inn. They also played together minus Gary on the Rat Pack movie 3 Sergeants and all of them they recorded some records produced by Project Records. The group ended its activities in 1962 after significant success and recognition on the live performances field.
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Others of Note » Phil Crosby - Little By Little » 06/12/2024 10:20 am |
Bing married two women with fine singing voices, Dixie Lee was a professional singer and Kathryn Grant was also a singer with a wonderful soft, warm and gentle singing voice that she demonstrated on radio, television, films and live performances. It is only natural that the kids inherited some of that talent. I do not think that all of the seven children had professional voices, but they had an above the average vocal quality the first four show it on their professional life and the second three on all those Christmas shows, in London Palladium etc. I would say that they could carry a tune nicely even though they didn't pursuit a professional singing career and they excelled in diferent fields.
Artistic Legacy » Bing Crosby Scores Two New Hit Albums, Nearly 50 Years After His Death » 27/11/2024 10:26 pm |
It is very nice for all Bing's fan to see that his Christmas songbook remains popular and it remains mainstream during the holiday season. This is the only way for someone growing up on the 21 century to know and appereciate Bing Crosby and perhaps if he likes music and has good taste to dicover more about his other work to.
General Discussion » What non-Bing music have you been listening to recently? » 27/11/2024 10:16 pm |
I have heard a lot of music that month Bing mostly but also I was listening to Conne Boswell "Blue Moon" and "Moon Over Miami" etc. Patty Andrews, "Too Young" and "I Can't Dream Can't I". Jane Powell's Too Late Now and It's A most Unusual Day. Anne Harshaws "We Just Couldn't Say Goodbye" Dean Martin, "But The Door Is Still Open To My Heart", Michael Holiday's "Starry Eyed", "Stairway of Love" and "I Only Have Eyes For You" (by both Dean Martin and Dick Powell) and "Fascination and "My Foolish Heart" by Jane Morgan who is now in her 100s and still with us.
Recording » Bing's TV 'recordings' » 27/11/2024 10:00 pm |
That would be wonderful to see. Bing Crosby performed many wonderful songs in television during the 1950s 1960s and 1970s. He also made many memorable duets and medley’s, but his single songs were also amazing. His Hollywood Palace episodes along have so many materials. I agree that Bing presence in television is less researched, compared to radio movies or records. THE CHRONOLOGICAL BING CROSBY ON TELEVISION-Compiled by Lionel Pairpoint, Malcolm Macfarlane and Greg Van Beek is a great source of information for a project like this and it is available on our Clubs website.
Others of Note » Phil Crosby - Little By Little » 27/11/2024 9:32 pm |
It's great to see how all 7 of Bing's children can sing. Thats one of Philip's finest recordings he inherited a portion of his father talent! Thanks for uploading it.
Recording » Underrated Bing Crosby » 23/11/2024 10:08 pm |
Bing’s 1952 record Keep It A Secret is almost totally forgotten and at the time of its release went totally unnoticed. I read somewhere that Bing himself had high hopes for the song and he sung it 6 times in the next few months on his radio show, that’s more than any other song of the same period, Bilboard name the song his best effort in some time but the song reached only no 28 at the charts. Its interesting to notice that some of you have mentioned the same period -early 50s as his most underestimated and that’s right, also Ol Spring Fever that was mentioned above was recorded in 1952. So that seems to bee the period of his career that he was most underestimated and that’s strange because he was still at his prime and he was still working very hard making movies, records, radio shows etc
New and Re-issued materials » Any new Bing stuff expected for Christmas? » 14/11/2024 4:17 pm |
I never liked these attempts of digital combined music; half the magic is lost in the process. The Bing Crosby White Christmas single version is the best-selling record of all time. The song is the epitome of an all-time favorite Christmas classic and the attempts to create a competitive version always failing after momentary presence in the spotlight. Some years ago, Michael Buble sung with Bing (using his 1971 Christmas Special version of the song), although it was a nice tribute with Buble sharing his admiration for Bing Crosby and saying he is fulfilling a dream with singing with him I do not think that Bing’s legacy is earning more value or recognition. I do not expect much from this announcement. I hope that some fans of the artist V of BTS might discover Bing Crosby and learn about his music, but I seriously doubt that it would make any difference. The only think I know it’s that I am not the audience for that kind of projects.
The Crosby family has done a lot during the years to perpetuate the legacy of Bing Crosby, many collaborations, agreements, documentary contributions, the successful Primary Wave deal etc. Any new release and project offers publicity to Bing Crosby and stimulates the interest of the general public. I didn’t know the artist V but I googled him and it seems that he is very popular in South Korea, the Eastern Asia area has a population of 1,6 billion people so it may be an opportunity for them to learn about Bing Crosby and his music. So I hope that this would be a successful release.
Radio » Hey There - November 18, 1954 » 14/11/2024 3:17 pm |
I believe that this is one of the many songs that Bing sung only in radio and he should have recorded commercially. I liked Bing’s delivery of the song a lot. Usually I also like Buddy Cole (Musical Autobiography of the same year) but this is not one of his best work. But beside that it is a nice recording and Bing’s voice was also on a very nice phase during that period.
Film » White Christmas/ Whitfield and Kathryn » 04/11/2024 10:06 pm |
Also, some of them are available in YouTube. One of the best not YouTube available movie is Mister Cory but is easy to find the movie on DVD. She was a wonderful actress, with a rare acting range, doing light comedy and serious drama and also she was a truly classic beauty of Hollywood Golden Age. But beside that she was a person full of grace, charm and wamrth with an ability to connect with people and audiences.
I hope that you will enjoy them!
The Guns of Fort Petticoat
The Night The World Exploded
Operation Mad Ball
Cell 2455 Death Row (Kathryn portrays the key female character of a gang girl in the first half of the movie which is mostly build on the male star)
This is the wonderful short movie that she made for a long running Christian Anthology in 1979, it is built entirely around Kathryn.
Film » White Christmas/ Whitfield and Kathryn » 04/11/2024 9:55 pm |
This filmography includes all her significant movie roles including her full length tv movies, that means that some 1953 and 1954 appearances in movies as an extra are not included. Kathryn also made a series of short films for Ford Television Theater and other anthologies in the 50s that they are not included here.
Unchained (1955) – Sally Haskins,
Tight Spot (1955) – Young Bride on her honeymoon
Cell 2455 Death Row (1955) – Jo-Anne
5 Against the House (1955) – Jean
The Phenix City Story (1955) – Ellie Rhodes
Storm Center (1956) – Hazel Levering
Reprisal! (1956) – Taini
The Wild Party (1956) – Honey
Mister Cory (1957) – Jen Vollard
The Guns of Fort Petticoat (1957) – Anne Martin
The Night the World Exploded (1957) – Laura Hutchinson
Operation Mad Ball (1957) – Lt. Betty Bixby
The Brothers Rico (1957) – Norah Malaks Rico
Gunman's Walk (1958) – Clee Chouard
The 7th Voyage of Sinbad (1958) – Princess Parisa
Anatomy of a Murder (1959) – Mary Pilant
The Big Circus (1959) – Jeannie Whirling
1001 Arabian Nights (1959) – Princess Yasminda (only vocal)
The House Next Door TV (1964) Ginny Warren
Doesn't Anyone Know Who I Am? TV (1964) Annie Smith
Cyranoh De Bergerac TV (1971) – Lise
The Initiation of Sarah TV (1978) – Mrs. Goodwin
My Husband, My Sorrow TV (1979) – Joyce Williams
Queen of the Lot (2010) – Elizabeth Lambert
Others of Note » Michael Holliday » 30/10/2024 5:35 pm |
I discovered Michael Holliday recently on an ICC Online meeting when Ken Crossland put together a wonderful presentation that introduce me to Michael Holliday, and I have heard now many of his song including the 1962 album-tribute to Bing.
His voice resembles a lot the voice of Bing Crosby and I am convinced now that if he was born ten years earlier he would have become more famous. He didn’t try to impersonate Bing but to imitate his exact style of singing and with a similar voice that was possible. But in his best songs he was able to break from his hero style and showcase his own talent in phrasing and lyrics interpretation.
Mat Monroe (British Sinatra) had a wonderful baritone-clear voice and his career didn’t go far either. But Michael Holliday got a similar phrasing ability with Bing and he was a very talented performer (though Bing’s voice was better). It is very sad that my generation don’t even know his name. His premature death was a tragedy. That style of singing didn’t remain popular over the years, but I have quit the effort to understand the public’s developing taste (with possible few exceptions that I do not know have on my mind) to the worst.
I Can’t Give You Anything But Love is in my opinion his best song (though I haven’t heard them all). It is nice though that his legacy isn’t totally forgotten and still they are some people able to appreciate his work.
Books » My Life With Bing-My First Years With Bing, differences? » 28/10/2024 6:25 pm |
As an avid reader in general I adore reading about Bing, I cannot describe my admiration for Malcom Macfarlane’s Day by Day, only after I read it I felt that I was actually knew something about Bing and it is the most useful and complete guide to Bing’s life. I have found very interesting information in all Bing’s book written by biographers or associates of his butI hold a special place for Kathryn’s books.
I believe that a wife is able to understand her husband better than even his children, so I was very fascinated to read her three books. The writing style in all of them was very vibrant. And they were more than 500 photographs in all of them.
In 2004 (incidentally the year that I was born) there was a re-printed My life With Bing with the new title My First Years with Bing. I own a hardcover copy of the 1983 first edition, it’s 351 pages book with 250 photographs all in Black and White. And I am wondering if there are any substantial differences between the 1983 and the 2004 version? I would like to know if there are different pictures, another introduction, possible changes in the text, or even if the same photographs are in color.
Judging by the online description they seem identical (minus the title).
International Club Crosby » BING magazine » 26/10/2024 1:36 pm |
I just can't wait to receive it!
The lenght and the quality of our magazine are amazing and I am sure that we all looking forward for our winter issue.
Member Introductions » Welcome Tacoma! » 26/10/2024 1:31 pm |
Welcome aboard!
Artistic Legacy » White Christmas: The best song ever written? » 23/10/2024 6:10 pm |
In my opinion it’s impossible to agree on a world ranking with subjective criteria’s. But the timing of the song during the Second World War, Bing’s immense status during that period and the success of the Holiday Inn in Box Office in 1942 and of White Christmas in 1954. Insure the longevity of the song making it a Christmas classic and part of our civilization and of course the best selling single of all times. The song simply melody and the nostalgic lyrics contains the essence of Christmas and it brings back childhood memorys in almost all the people in the western hemisphere.
When the best song ever it’s concerned everybody will have his own favorite. There is not a song with universal acclaim as the best. The world ranking is bases on the quantity of sales not the quality (though sometimes the immense quantity such as the 50 million copies of White Christmas usually means that the quality of the song is universal appreciated). At the end everybody would have to choose his own favorite song
Recording » If You Please-Female Vocalist » 23/10/2024 4:53 pm |
Very fascinating article, Lorne Harasen made a wonderful research there. Thanks Malcolm for uploading it!
Ken Darby was indeed a very important man and his high-quality team accompanied Bing in some of his finest recordings. He participated in the best-selling single of all times that’s a huge achievement on its own.
It seems that the information I seek is very rare indeed. it’s amazing how many things in his tremendous (and extremely well-documented) life and career they remain mysteries and as Ian pointed out the more year passes the fewest people remain with first-hand knowledge of the events. But luckily the professional devotion of some fellow-admirers of Crosbyana had made tones of information available to everybody. Unfortunately, at least until know it seems that the vocalist name in If You Please is not among them.
Perhaps someday someone will come up with something.
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