11/3/2022 4:01 am  #26


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Hello Ian,
Well, I consider myself a very lucky Aussie with having met Bing a couple of times and spoke on the phone and saw 4 Palladium concerts - 2 in each year, opening and closing nights except 1976 when after opening night a couple of nights later as I went to the Montreal Olympics.
In 1955 when I met him in Seattle, he asked what I was doing and was I going to Los Angeles, answered yes, and Bing said go see my brother.
Got lucky and saw Bob do a benefit TVshow on a Sunday then Monday to the Crosby office where I met Larry. Larry asked could they do anything for me - I answered about visiting Paramount but that wasn’t possible as Bing had finished with them. Larry offered me tickets to Disneyland but I declined as I didn’t wish to appear as ‘a bludger’.
About 1965 I met Phil in Sydney as he was at the Chevron Hotel doing a nightclub spot. Had a lunchtime beer with him.
Saw Gary perform in Sydney with Louis Armstrong.
Then in England 1966-68 I spoke on the phone and saw him at his hotel.
Returned to Australia and then off to UK in 1972 to 1979.
Spoke on phone, he rang me at the office one day too.
Caddied for Nathaniel. Met Harry and also Kathryn. Kathryn rang me when I was in Vegas.
Met nephew Howard and a couple of his aunts as well as wife.Met Lindsay’s son Kevin.
So, one very fortunate Australian.
Think I’ve covered everything and hope you enjoy.
Stay safe.
Ron

 

12/3/2022 3:58 am  #27


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Ron Field wrote:

Hello Ian,
Well, I consider myself a very lucky Aussie with having met Bing a couple of times and spoke on the phone and saw 4 Palladium concerts - 2 in each year, opening and closing nights except 1976 when after opening night a couple of nights later as I went to the Montreal Olympics.
In 1955 when I met him in Seattle, he asked what I was doing and was I going to Los Angeles, answered yes, and Bing said go see my brother.
Got lucky and saw Bob do a benefit TVshow on a Sunday then Monday to the Crosby office where I met Larry. Larry asked could they do anything for me - I answered about visiting Paramount but that wasn’t possible as Bing had finished with them. Larry offered me tickets to Disneyland but I declined as I didn’t wish to appear as ‘a bludger’.
About 1965 I met Phil in Sydney as he was at the Chevron Hotel doing a nightclub spot. Had a lunchtime beer with him.
Saw Gary perform in Sydney with Louis Armstrong.
Then in England 1966-68 I spoke on the phone and saw him at his hotel.
Returned to Australia and then off to UK in 1972 to 1979.
Spoke on phone, he rang me at the office one day too.
Caddied for Nathaniel. Met Harry and also Kathryn. Kathryn rang me when I was in Vegas.
Met nephew Howard and a couple of his aunts as well as wife.Met Lindsay’s son Kevin.
So, one very fortunate Australian.
Think I’ve covered everything and hope you enjoy.
Stay safe.
Ron

Ron,

Thank you so much for taking the time for me with all this. I could not be more delighted for you to have all these wonderful direct memories. To have met, spoken with and then seen numerous times in concert a performer I think I respect and hold dear more than almost any other (head to head with Fred Astaire but I think that's fine considering the huge respect and affection both gents held each other in), is so heart warming.

You say you consider yourself very lucky with all this but then again I believe can we can to a certain degree make our own luck insofar that both Bing and all his family members must have seen something in you to have given you the time. Plus to have also seen Gary perform with LOUIS ARMSTRONG (I make no apologies for "shouting", here) is beyond anything I could begin to dream of. Surely, if there's anyone could hold a candle to Bing for being the single most influential figure on last century's popular music, it would have to be Louis?

Thank you again, Ron for the honour. It's members such as you that make all this such a joy. The pleasure was all mine. I'm sure we'll soon "meet" again on another thread. 

Stay safe yourself, sir! 
Ian.

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28/3/2022 5:30 am  #28


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Ian wondered when I first heard Bing sing. It would have been on radio during the war when I lived with my family in Melbourne and I was a primary school student. You could hardly avoid hearing Crosby records in those days although I can't recall the first one I heard. In 1947 I turned thirteen and each week in Melbourne we could listen to more than six and a half hours of radio programs which played only Crosby records. I became a Crosby fan in the early fifties when a friend introduced me to Bing's early thirties records.

 

28/3/2022 9:03 am  #29


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Hello Ian,
Hope I can answer satisfactorily for you in a chronological order,
Saw Gary with Louis Armstrong at the mentioned Sydney Stadium around 1957 or so I suppose, maybe earlier as I left Australia July 1957.
Then it was Bing in Seattle,Bob in LA and Larry at the Crosby office in LA.
Larry asked if they could do anything for me - I mentioned Paramountbut that was a no as Bing had left. Larry offered tickets to Disneyland but I declined as I didn’t wish to be seen as a bludger..
Phil came to Sydney in 65 or 66 and met him for a beer at lunchtime.
Then back to the UK and spoke on the phone to Bing 1968. He was going golfing at Wentworth, which I wasn’t sure where it was. Oh, Bing answered the phones each time.
Then to Canada and back to Aust then back to England in1972.
Spoke on the phone, caddied for Nathaniel and spoke to Harry. Then the Palladium concerts in 76 and 77.
Was sent a thank you note from him after his stage fall. Also sent me inMay 77 tags and stuff from the previous golf tournament in January.
Then at Hofstra I met Kathryn and a yarn and also nephew Howard.
On the plane from Vegas about to take off and Kathryn rang.
Met Lindsay’s son Kevin and wife and also a couple of aunties of Howard.
So, for an Aussie I did pretty good.
I did present on Community Radio in Wollongong and later in Bega - Mainly Bing. Now that I am firmly back in Australia I must get back into it.
I live in Bermagui and cowboy writer Zane Grey fished here in the late 1930’s.
The Billy Connolly film - The Man Who Sued God - was filmed here but it might have a different name in the USA or UK.
Think that just about covers it.
And a bit of trivia- my boss at Hoyts Theatres in Sydney- was the younger brother of drowned Australian Prime Minister Harold. They both died the same year in March and December.
Hope I didn’t carry on too much.
Cheers
Ron

 

29/3/2022 12:15 am  #30


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Ian,
Forgot to mention that in February 1977 Bing was recording with Fred. I took some info to the hotel about Noon asking if he had time to play go,f at my club in Reading.
About 3.00pm my office phone rang and on saying hello, the voice at the other end said - it’s Bing Crosby here. Couldn’t play as was on a tight schedule and didn’t bring his clubs. I nearly fell out of my chair.
Another little story. The wife of a fellow golfer was visiting her Mum at Stonebridge Park when a big limo pulled up next to her to ask directions. She poked her head in the window and Bing and Fred were in the back. She must have had a surprise look on her face as they said - yes,it is us. They were on their way to the recording studios.
In 1995/96 Denise Crosby came to Sydney. I rang her and spoke to her (I was about 40 mile away). She was performing in Sydney.
Anyway, Denise was the born out of wedlock child to Dennis but she never met Bing. Seems that Bing may have held her responsible, I don’t know. She died a couple of years ago.
I got to interviewDionne Warwick around the same time as she was at the Hilton in Sydney. Went to her room and we spokeforabout45 minutes. I played the interview on my radio programme. She gave me an autographed 10x8photo plus a CD. Also a seat in the dining room but no meal.
In England I met Douglas Fairbanks Jnr and in Peterborough Wilfred Hyde White.
Saw Vic Damon’s at the Palladium. Afterwards at the stage door I waited with others. A bloke had a plastic bags with LP’s in it. when Vic came out this bloke said to him - I’ve got all your records and I really hope you make it one day. Vic said Thanks a lot.

 

29/3/2022 4:52 pm  #31


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Ron Field wrote:

Ian,
Forgot to mention that in February 1977 Bing was recording with Fred. I took some info to the hotel about Noon asking if he had time to play go,f at my club in Reading.
About 3.00pm my office phone rang and on saying hello, the voice at the other end said - it’s Bing Crosby here. Couldn’t play as was on a tight schedule and didn’t bring his clubs. I nearly fell out of my chair.
Another little story. The wife of a fellow golfer was visiting her Mum at Stonebridge Park when a big limo pulled up next to her to ask directions. She poked her head in the window and Bing and Fred were in the back. She must have had a surprise look on her face as they said - yes,it is us. They were on their way to the recording studios.
In 1995/96 Denise Crosby came to Sydney. I rang her and spoke to her (I was about 40 mile away). She was performing in Sydney.
Anyway, Denise was the born out of wedlock child to Dennis but she never met Bing. Seems that Bing may have held her responsible, I don’t know. She died a couple of years ago.
I got to interviewDionne Warwick around the same time as she was at the Hilton in Sydney. Went to her room and we spokeforabout45 minutes. I played the interview on my radio programme. She gave me an autographed 10x8photo plus a CD. Also a seat in the dining room but no meal.
In England I met Douglas Fairbanks Jnr and in Peterborough Wilfred Hyde White.
Saw Vic Damon’s at the Palladium. Afterwards at the stage door I waited with others. A bloke had a plastic bags with LP’s in it. when Vic came out this bloke said to him - I’ve got all your records and I really hope you make it one day. Vic said Thanks a lot.

Great stories!

Denise Crosby is still alive though.

 

31/3/2022 5:39 pm  #32


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Graham Pascoe wrote:

Ian wondered when I first heard Bing sing. It would have been on radio during the war when I lived with my family in Melbourne and I was a primary school student. You could hardly avoid hearing Crosby records in those days although I can't recall the first one I heard. In 1947 I turned thirteen and each week in Melbourne we could listen to more than six and a half hours of radio programs which played only Crosby records. I became a Crosby fan in the early fifties when a friend introduced me to Bing's early thirties records.

Graham, that's incredible for someone of my age (52) to appreciate. To think at one time, "You could hardly avoid hearing Crosby records in those days …"is something I have never known. I became a fully fledged fan aged thirteen in 1982 when Bing in the UK was still being regularly and knowledgably played on national and local radio but not by then, to the extent you describe. With you becoming a fan via his early 'thirties records, if push came to shove, would you find yourself favouring that period of his recordings before any other?

Having recently subscibed to the "International Club Crosby" and it's wonderful "Bing" magazine (I'm currently in the process of purchasing many of its back copies), I'm throughly enjoying your regular, lovely, warm column on Bing from an Australian perspective, something that's new to me. Your article in the Spring 2021 edition has now made me determined to seek out (so far unseen by me) the 1956 film remake of "Anything Goes". I recently aquirred the 2004 CD re-issue of its soundtrack and you've now intesified my curiousity!

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31/3/2022 10:15 pm  #33


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Ron Field wrote:

Hello Ian,
Hope I can answer satisfactorily for you in a chronological order,
Saw Gary with Louis Armstrong at the mentioned Sydney Stadium around 1957 or so I suppose, maybe earlier as I left Australia July 1957.
Then it was Bing in Seattle,Bob in LA and Larry at the Crosby office in LA.
Larry asked if they could do anything for me - I mentioned Paramountbut that was a no as Bing had left. Larry offered tickets to Disneyland but I declined as I didn’t wish to be seen as a bludger..
Phil came to Sydney in 65 or 66 and met him for a beer at lunchtime.
Then back to the UK and spoke on the phone to Bing 1968. He was going golfing at Wentworth, which I wasn’t sure where it was. Oh, Bing answered the phones each time.
Then to Canada and back to Aust then back to England in1972.
Spoke on the phone, caddied for Nathaniel and spoke to Harry. Then the Palladium concerts in 76 and 77.
Was sent a thank you note from him after his stage fall. Also sent me inMay 77 tags and stuff from the previous golf tournament in January.
Then at Hofstra I met Kathryn and a yarn and also nephew Howard.
On the plane from Vegas about to take off and Kathryn rang.
Met Lindsay’s son Kevin and wife and also a couple of aunties of Howard.
So, for an Aussie I did pretty good.
I did present on Community Radio in Wollongong and later in Bega - Mainly Bing. Now that I am firmly back in Australia I must get back into it.
I live in Bermagui and cowboy writer Zane Grey fished here in the late 1930’s.
The Billy Connolly film - The Man Who Sued God - was filmed here but it might have a different name in the USA or UK.
Think that just about covers it.
And a bit of trivia- my boss at Hoyts Theatres in Sydney- was the younger brother of drowned Australian Prime Minister Harold. They both died the same year in March and December.
Hope I didn’t carry on too much.
Cheers
Ron

Ron you certainly did not "carry on too much" (just read the length of some of my posts on here!). All you have said plays a large part in what makes this forum so entertaining, informative and interesting. Your memories are so valuable and provide such an insight into the time Bing made for some of his admirers. I've heard and read so many things to the contrary that all your warm memories and encounters offer such a welcome eye opener. It's incredible the brushes you have had and yet live and lived for much of your life in a country where Bing never quite managed to set foot in. Thank you very much indeed.

May I ask what you made of the personality of Bing's brother Larry? Was it similar to his sibling's or completely different?
 

 

31/3/2022 10:42 pm  #34


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Ron Field wrote:

Ian,
Forgot to mention that in February 1977 Bing was recording with Fred. I took some info to the hotel about Noon asking if he had time to play go,f at my club in Reading.
About 3.00pm my office phone rang and on saying hello, the voice at the other end said - it’s Bing Crosby here. Couldn’t play as was on a tight schedule and didn’t bring his clubs. I nearly fell out of my chair.
Another little story. The wife of a fellow golfer was visiting her Mum at Stonebridge Park when a big limo pulled up next to her to ask directions. She poked her head in the window and Bing and Fred were in the back. She must have had a surprise look on her face as they said - yes,it is us. They were on their way to the recording studios.
In 1995/96 Denise Crosby came to Sydney. I rang her and spoke to her (I was about 40 mile away). She was performing in Sydney.
Anyway, Denise was the born out of wedlock child to Dennis but she never met Bing. Seems that Bing may have held her responsible, I don’t know. She died a couple of years ago.
I got to interviewDionne Warwick around the same time as she was at the Hilton in Sydney. Went to her room and we spokeforabout45 minutes. I played the interview on my radio programme. She gave me an autographed 10x8photo plus a CD. Also a seat in the dining room but no meal.
In England I met Douglas Fairbanks Jnr and in Peterborough Wilfred Hyde White.
Saw Vic Damon’s at the Palladium. Afterwards at the stage door I waited with others. A bloke had a plastic bags with LP’s in it. when Vic came out this bloke said to him - I’ve got all your records and I really hope you make it one day. Vic said Thanks a lot.

Oh wow, Ron! You are just the gift that keeps on giving!!!  Conversations and potential golf dates with Bing and a lady randomly popping her head into a car only to discover two of the biggest and most influential giants in the history of entertainment humorously acknowledging their identities. I don't know about falling off a chair, I think I would have fainted on the spot. Mr Astaire is another of my main idols. Loved your one liner about a seat but no meal from Ms Warwick. 

Mind if I ask under what were the circumstances you met Douglas Fairbanks Jr and Wilfred Hyde White? I remember reading a lovely story how that once in Hollywood the latter met Bing for the first time when our singer knocked on Wilfred's studio dressing room door and after answering who was outside, being told by a disbelieving Wilfred, "Oh don't bugger about!" - until the door was opened and all was revealed.

May I also ask (I'm wanting my money's worth today, aren't I?), was the guy at the stage door with Vic Damone's records in a plastic bag responding to something Damone had previously just said or done? I only ask because a previous music boss of mine once had a none too pleasant run in with Mr Damone,  just prior to a show he was giving in the UK. 
 

 

01/4/2022 6:59 am  #35


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Lobosco,
Sorry, I thought I read somewhere that she had passed.
She would be in her 60’s as Dennis and I are 1934 models.
Ron

 

01/4/2022 10:11 pm  #36


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Lobosco,
Yes, see that she was born inNovember just a couple of months after I met Bing.
Once again I’m sorry that I input wrong info.
Ron

 

01/4/2022 10:24 pm  #37


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Ian,
Saw Douglas in a show in London and just waited - may have even been outside his dressing room.
Wilfred in a play in Peterborough and also staying at the same Hotel - the Great Northern - which was a British Transport Hotel (I.e. Railway), for whom I worked.
The - so called fan of Vic Danone - probably not too bright. Imagine saying that to any person you were supposed to be a big fan.
Days of security were just starting in London after the IRA bombings. I managed to get into the Royal Albert Hall to see Shirley Bassey at the 6.00pm performance. I managed to tape her. After the show I realised that when I turned the tape over to record the other side, I didn’t press the cassette in far enough. So we decided to go to the 8.00pm show to finish the tape and, blow me down, if I didn’t get through again undetected.
When living at Wembley Park the TV studios were near by. Shirley Bassey was doing a show. A Rolls Royce was waiting outside for. The back door was open soI poked my head in and said hello to a lady waiting for her - I must admit that I had had a belly full up at The Torch. Don’t thinkI did see her come out.

 

01/4/2022 11:27 pm  #38


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Ron, 

You did very well, in those explosive days, sneaking the recorder back in again after the mishap with the first show. I saw Dame Shirley many years later in Nottingham and she was spellbinding. I have never seen such a large orchestra play with a solo singer and the sound's balance, mixing, amplification and tone being so perfect to the extent that you could have been listening to some of her records. How did you find the sound quality at Bing's concerts?

With regard to your Damone anecdote, performers do sometimes have a lot to put with via their public, don't they? A record shop boss of mine from years ago who was helping promote a Stan Kenton concert in the 1970's, ended up standing inside the stage door with his mouth open in disbelief, while Stan Kenton, after a concert was happily signing autographs and chatting with members of that night's audience. One chap (a customer of ours) stepped forward with an album to be signed. Mr Kenton, freindly to a fault, politely greeted him and asked if he'd enjoyed the show. The man (still just as unaware when he told me the story himself, years later) responded; "Well to be honest, Stan I didn't. I was ever so disappointed. You see, I really miss the days when I thought you were at your best with your 'Peanut Vendor' and all your old hits. I'm afraid your modern stuff just doesn't do all that much for me".

As you say, Ron - probably not too bright!

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13/4/2022 4:20 am  #39


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Ian asked when this Crosby fan first heard or saw Bing on radio or movies. When I was a lad in Melbourne I couldn't avoid hearing Bing on radio because his records were played so often. It would have been in the early 1950s that my best mate told me that he had heard Bing sing in the early 1930s and said 'Bing was really trying then'. So I listened more carefully and heard his recording of 'Beautiful girl' and was 'hooked'. No, I didn't see Sinatra but I have several of the 1950s LP albums and play tracks from them on my programs.

 

13/4/2022 4:39 am  #40


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Graham Pascoe wrote:

Ian asked when this Crosby fan first heard or saw Bing on radio or movies. When I was a lad in Melbourne I couldn't avoid hearing Bing on radio because his records were played so often. It would have been in the early 1950s that my best mate told me that he had heard Bing sing in the early 1930s and said 'Bing was really trying then'. So I listened more carefully and heard his recording of 'Beautiful girl' and was 'hooked'. No, I didn't see Sinatra but I have several of the 1950s LP albums and play tracks from them on my programs.

I must hunt down Bing's 1930's "Beautiful Girl" recording. I've never knowingly heard it. Coincidentally, one of the songs Tony Bennett sang during his two final concerts last year. I smiled at the " .. really trying" comment. Do you know if this was in reference to Bing's more romantically intense style and all those top notes during that period? By the way, I'm still thoroughly enjoying your articles in the "Bing" magazine and still in the process of purchasing as many back issue as I can (Treasurer Michael is very kindly facilitating this), so there's lots of catching up for me to do!
 

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27/4/2022 5:36 am  #41


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Yes, Ian, I believe my mate was impressed by the romantically intense style (to use your words) of some of those early recordings. They weren't being played on Melbourne radio in the 1950s but my friend had a rich uncle who owned a movie projector and screened some of the Mack Sennett shorts at a family gathering one night.

 

03/5/2022 3:57 pm  #42


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Oh that's wonderful! When I was growing up, it was Charlie Chaplin and Laurel & Hardy being projected. I've remained a fan of both acts and their films ever since. Lovely to think that it was Mack Sennett who originally gave film star billing to both Charlie and Bing (albeit nearly twenty years apart). What was the general reaction to the Mack Sennett shorts?

 

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