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Even though published over 10 year ago now I’m finally reading this biography on Bob Hope. It’s very informative and generally a good read but it’s annoying that there always have to be a few jabs at Bing included somewhere. It’s the usual stuff such as Bing being cold etc but the most unsettling comment is a quote attributed to Bob himself in late 1977 just after Bings death. Bob was looking through old film clips for his TV special which I think was “On the Road with Bing”. The associate producer was a lady called Marcia Lewis who claimed Bob said to her (when she and Bob were alone) “You know I never liked Bing. He was a son of a bitch. In all the years of working together he never had Delores and me to dinner”. I found this to be quiet upsetting that Bob would say this especially when he had been so upset by Bings recent passing. I had a memory of a quote from Bings butler Alan Fisher in an interview he gave again in late 1977 for the special narrated by William Holden. I searched through my files and found the documentary and skipped through until I found the clip and sure enough Alan Fishers words were along the lines of: “Mr Crosby was a very private man. In the 16 years I worked for him he hardly even entertained at home. I remember once Bob and Delores Hope came for dinner, Phil Harris and Alice Faye once, Fred Astaire once for dinner in London……….” After confirming this it didn’t make sense. Because it was such a rare event I’m sure Alan Fisher would remember who visited for dinner and I can’t believe he’d lie. Also I find it hard to believe that Bob Hope wouldn’t remember if it was a once in a lifetime occasion and again I’m sure he wouldn’t lie. My only conclusion is that this woman Marcia Lewis either made it up or her memory of the event over 40 years ago was hazy and she exaggerated. Anyway I guess they need to dish some dirt in these biographies but unless they are 100% sure they shouldn’t include these alleged things.
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I read that book recently and I enjoyed it a lot, it is a very well writen book about Bob Hope.
I wouldn't focus on few points that are phrased as opinions. It is the author's perogative to distinguish facts and opinions and Zoglin gets A+ here.
The book is also well sourced, a biographer cannot be responsible fully for all the information. He says that this was said by this particular source, I agree with you that the source might have lied, misremembered and perhaps misquote the phrase.
I also notice a few minor details that were not accurate, indeed it is factual correct that Bing according to his butler had invited Bob and Dolores Hope for dinner once, and he had even stay in Hope's house when his Toluca Lake residence was burned.
If I am remembering it right, Bing Crosby included some country club stories with Bob, suggesting they were socializing a bit more than Zoglin suggests.
I believe that Bing and Bob had a complicated relationship. They were in my view friendly, as it is supported by
Here it is also important that the subject is Bob Hope, the Bing Crosby mentions are contextual so I would judge them with the same weight if they were coming from a Crosby biographer.
Bing declined a cameo role as Father O’Malley (it was Hope’s idea), he was less willing to participate in some projects.
So, it seems likely that he might have some problems or complaints from the long standing relationship and their different personalities but not to the extent of really not liking him.
Bing at some point offered Bob the chance to purchase neighboring vacation houses.
So even if Bob had some complaints that Bing was perhaps less commited to him cannot reach the point of really not liking him.
Bob also used more Crosby references in his work, he used to do more Crosby jokes while Bing did that few and far in between times.
Bob also used Bing many times as cameo while Bing didn't at the same degree.
Richard Zoglin is also mentioning in his writings that Bing and Bob really came closer when they stayed with families together in UK during the last road picture.
I would say that this is a full life story coverage of Bob and a pleasure to read.
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I read a Bob Hope book years back but don't remember which one, I am getting old I guess. I think it was an autobiography. I remember him talking about Ethel Merman competing with him to get the Show Girls. I don't remember him saying anything bad about Bing.