15/10/2025 7:41 pm  #1


Bob Crosby.

I read yesterday for anybody that's interested and who can afford it there's a new box set out on Mosiac of Bing's brother Bob Crosby's Bobcats Decca recordings recorded between 1936 and 1942 coming out in the next few weeks unfortunately the price is too steep for me so i can't afford it as it's an American import surely sets like that can be sold for a lot cheaper seemingly the sources are 78s with only metal parts used for alternative takes , if it was an European public domain release i would have been able to buy it in an instant but not at that ridiculus price, anyway for those who can afford it hope you enjoy the set.

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15/10/2025 9:16 pm  #2


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Thanks for posting this to inform us. I agree that the price is high. It seems though an interesting addition for all that love the Decca classic years. Bob had a very nice band. He had some fine records with Andrews Sisters and the work he did with his borther must be considered some of his best. He had always a very nice sound!

 

19/10/2025 9:00 pm  #3


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I looked up the information again on the new Bob Crosby box set it transpires it is not the complete set of his recordings from 1936 to 1942 just for the most part mainly instrumental tracks that were recorded from that era.

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23/10/2025 1:58 pm  #4


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Yes thank you, Stepo - it does look a grand but expensive set. The high price seems very similar to what I paid around thirteen years ago and directly to Mosaic for their Bing CBS Radio Recordings box set. I must confess, I think I would initially prefer just instrumentals from Bob and Mosaic do produce these sets beautifully (I have another of George Shearing's live recordings). However, I think I'd possibly just invest in a single, well chosen CD of Bob's for that purpose. Do have any suggestions again for me, Stepo?  

 

23/10/2025 4:16 pm  #5


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I agree that the price is steep. Bob was always very prood of his band, and they had indeed a wonderful sound. The covered period here is the prime of the Big Band era that came to an abruptely end with the Second World War.

 

23/10/2025 11:12 pm  #6


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Ian Kerstein wrote:

Yes thank you, Stepo - it does look a grand but expensive set. The high price seems very similar to what I paid around thirteen years ago and directly to Mosaic for their Bing CBS Radio Recordings box set. I must confess, I think I would initially prefer just instrumentals from Bob and Mosaic do produce these sets beautifully (I have another of George Shearing's live recordings). However, I think I'd possibly just invest in a single, well chosen CD of Bob's for that purpose. Do have any suggestions again for me, Stepo?  

I have nearly all of Bob Crosby's recordings and some of his vocal recordings are great. He supplied many of the vocals, but I really liked his 1930s vocalist Kay Weber, a leftover from the Dorsey Brothers band as well as Marion Mann. 

Mosaic does a great job on their sets and I have a few like Bing, Woody Herman, Louis Armstrong, and Stan Kenton, but this set is a little bit out of my budget.
 

 

24/10/2025 12:28 pm  #7


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Thank you, David.

Clearly, I need to look a little further into Bing's little brother's music. I am only familiar with his famous and wonderfully unique "Big Noise from Winnetka"  and his cameo in "Road to Bali". Malcolm told me at the most recent "in person" meeting at Jason's house in the UK of the ICC in June that Bob was not at all a musician - just the front man. I wonder if this made him unique among the well known bandleaders of his day? I think I remember reading that Ella Fitzgerald fronted the Chick Webb orchestra after his death but as far as anyone else actually founding a band or popular orchestra without any experience of playing, I don't know.
 

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24/10/2025 7:58 pm  #8


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Yes I have heard that too about Bob. He became leader when he was elected by the member's of Ben Pollack's orchestra when their original leader departed. Bob played a pivotal role in discovering and promoting a teenager Doris Day, his band female vocalist. Doris Day make her break when she was hired by Les Brown that had first heard her I think in Bob's band and she recorded with Brown Sentimental Journey in 1945, that became a no1 hit. A newcomer unknown vocalist making a no1 hit with her first serious effort!! 

 

24/10/2025 8:28 pm  #9


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Good grief, something else I never knew (of which there is more than plenty). Thank you, Pantelis.
I wonder if Doris actually recorded with Bob Crosby and his orchestra or his Bob Cats?
This is what's so wonderful about this forum and its members. There's always something else to learn - and the connections continue to come rolling right in with Les Brown and his Band of Renown of course faithfully being that band backing the other Bob in Bing's sphere (Hope) for decades.

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24/10/2025 8:34 pm  #10


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No, as far as I know her first recording was Sentimental Journey with Les Brown imediately after she left Bob Crosby.

 

24/10/2025 9:17 pm  #11


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Wowser! What a classic debut! And indeed what a break that turned out to be - and a legendary, outstanding and perfectly involving, lilting and lifting recording. It still fully resonates to this day. An immortal performance by all. 

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04/11/2025 2:07 pm  #12


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There is a CD on Acrobat , a double one of his hit recordings at a reasonable price. also an ASV living era cd has some recordings from 1935 to 1939.

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04/11/2025 2:10 pm  #13


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I think Vaughn Monroe fronted his band without any experience of playing as he was a singer.

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04/11/2025 5:13 pm  #14


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STEPO wrote:

I think Vaughn Monroe fronted his band without any experience of playing as he was a singer.

This is indeed very interesting. I knew that Bob Crosby was not a trained musician but I had the idea that most of the bandleaders were players

 

06/11/2025 2:10 am  #15


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The 2-CD set on Acrobat is definitely the way to go to get a proper introduction to Bob Crosby's music because it does deliver on the promise of its title: All the Hits and More, and it covers the 30s, 40s, and even some early '50s recordings. The sound is also good, and the price is another great reason to buy it.

That being said, I love Mosaic sets, though I only have about 6 or 7 because of their hefty price tag. One of them is, of course, Bing's CBS radio box set, but I also have others by Woody Herman, Jack Teagarden, Bobby Hackett, Ike Quebec, Duke Ellington on Reprise (this one is truly great), and the complete jazz recordings issued by the Bee Hive label in the '70s and '80s. All of them highly recommended if you can find a copy at a decent price.

AGF

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06/11/2025 12:49 pm  #16


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There was also a second CD on ASV released.

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13/11/2025 12:18 am  #17


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STEPO wrote:

There is a CD on Acrobat , a double one of his hit recordings at a reasonable price. also an ASV living era cd has some recordings from 1935 to 1939.

Thank you very much indeed, Stepo. I'm taking a look at this CD set, now and it looks excellent. Are you able to tell me the titles of the ASV ones you also mention, as I'm struggling to trace them? 

 

13/11/2025 1:05 am  #18


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Thank you for your guidance too, Anton. It's all a bit of a minefield when looking for just one or two general, overall  quality studio recorded discs. I've been listening, properly to some of brother Bob's recordings for the first time and I must say I am very impressed with the warmth and subtly of his sound. I think at this early stage of my enthusiasm, I will go for what you and Stepo have so helpfully suggested. However, I really do enjoy and admire both the audio quality and presentation of the Mosaic box sets. The Bing CBS one has proven to be an endless joy and their box set of George Shearing live recordings is a total pleasure. You have now, though really piqued my curiosity over their Duke Ellington Reprise set. 

Anton G.-F. wrote:

The 2-CD set on Acrobat is definitely the way to go to get a proper introduction to Bob Crosby's music because it does deliver on the promise of its title: All the Hits and More, and it covers the 30s, 40s, and even some early '50s recordings. The sound is also good, and the price is another great reason to buy it.

That being said, I love Mosaic sets, though I only have about 6 or 7 because of their hefty price tag. One of them is, of course, Bing's CBS radio box set, but I also have others by Woody Herman, Jack Teagarden, Bobby Hackett, Ike Quebec, Duke Ellington on Reprise (this one is truly great), and the complete jazz recordings issued by the Bee Hive label in the '70s and '80s. All of them highly recommended if you can find a copy at a decent price.

AGF

 

 

13/11/2025 1:12 am  #19


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STEPO wrote:

I think Vaughn Monroe fronted his band without any experience of playing as he was a singer.

That's really interesting. It does/did seem so rare for vocalists to do this. I never knew Vaughn Monroe fronted his own band. He sounded to have a really unique vocal style. I read somewhere (I think from a family member's memoir) that Bing used to privately do a mock imitation of him.

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13/11/2025 1:33 am  #20


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Pantelis Kavouras wrote:

STEPO wrote:

I think Vaughn Monroe fronted his band without any experience of playing as he was a singer.

This is indeed very interesting. I knew that Bob Crosby was not a trained musician but I had the idea that most of the bandleaders were players

I think that was usually the case, Pantelis and some of them such as Duke Ellington, Artie Shaw and later Buddy Rich were viewed as among the very best players in their field. I've read that Duke Ellington was often overlooked with this due to the sheer longevity of him fronting his own band of over fifty-five years and his enormous catalogue of compositions. Tony Bennett once told me that Ellington was the most prolific composer .. ever.
I'm now off to begin my own modest musical memoirs entitled, "Name Drops Keep Falling on my Head". 

 

14/11/2025 11:26 pm  #21


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Pantelis Kavouras wrote:

No, as far as I know her first recording was Sentimental Journey with Les Brown imediately after she left Bob Crosby.

I'll have to look it up but I don't think Doris Day's first recording was Sentimental Journey. I think she recorded some earlier stuff with Les Brown but she never made a record with Bob Crosby unfortunately.

My favorite record thst Doris Day made with Les Brown was "While The Music Plays On". It is haunting...




 

 

15/11/2025 2:51 am  #22


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According to both "The Jazz Discography Online" and Brian Rust's "The American Dance Band Discography 1917-1942", Doris Day's first recording session with Les Brown was on Nov. 29, 1940 for Okeh Records. She recorded: "(I Ain't Hep To That Step But I'll) Dig It", "Let's Be Buddies", "While The Music Plays On",
"Three At A Table For Two. As David points out, there are no recordings of Day with the Bob Crosby orchestra (not even radio airchecks, it seems). Interestingly, Vaughan Monroe did play trumpet-including on some of his band's first recordings for Bluebird. 

 

15/11/2025 4:05 am  #23


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Alan wrote:

According to both "The Jazz Discography Online" and Brian Rust's "The American Dance Band Discography 1917-1942", Doris Day's first recording session with Les Brown was on Nov. 29, 1940 for Okeh Records. She recorded: "(I Ain't Hep To That Step But I'll) Dig It", "Let's Be Buddies", "While The Music Plays On",
"Three At A Table For Two. As David points out, there are no recordings of Day with the Bob Crosby orchestra (not even radio airchecks, it seems). Interestingly, Vaughan Monroe did play trumpet-including on some of his band's first recordings for Bluebird. 

Goodness me, Alan. Thank you. I had no idea Doris Day's discography stretched as far back to the dawn of the 1940's. This must mean, then that counting her final (?) recordings she undertook in the mid/late-eighties for television and her "Doris Day's Best Friends" show, that her recording career lasted almost fifty years? 
I've also now learned that early on, Vaughn Monroe played the trumpet. This is one of the many reasons I so enjoy this forum. There's always something new to discover. 

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15/11/2025 4:14 am  #24


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David Lobosco wrote:

Pantelis Kavouras wrote:

No, as far as I know her first recording was Sentimental Journey with Les Brown imediately after she left Bob Crosby.

I'll have to look it up but I don't think Doris Day's first recording was Sentimental Journey. I think she recorded some earlier stuff with Les Brown but she never made a record with Bob Crosby unfortunately.

My favorite record thst Doris Day made with Les Brown was "While The Music Plays On". It is haunting...



This is wonderful, David. Haunting, indeed with the band of renown and their girl singer being in perfect sympathy. Doris had such a mood setting voice, along with such appealing and intimate skills of interpretation. This performance somehow now reminds me of Artie Shaw's instrumental "Nightmare" and has me wondering if Doris ever recorded or sang with him and any of his bands? 

 

 

 

15/11/2025 4:53 pm  #25


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WOW, thank you David, indeed haunting, it was a new record for mer. It is not a typical Doris Day style song, it is great and quite moody.
I didn't knew that she had begin to record that early, in online sources it started with Sentimental Journey who was the song that made her famous and put her into the music map. Day is one of the artits that were able to evolve in time. From her big band days, to being a musical starlet, a tomboy and later the romantic comedy star in late 50s 60s. My respect for her only grew from this nicely arranged number.

 

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