28/3/2022 5:06 am  #51


Re: What non-Bing music have you been listening to recently?

Graham, no pardon necessary, it's just nice to hear from you and hope you had a great holiday. Thanks for the response, This all sounds very interesting, indeed. I've found the 2mce.org website without a problem. I'm currently working out the time difference zones so as when to listen. Are your shows also available for a period on a "listen again" facility after each broadcast?  

 

13/4/2022 4:07 am  #52


Re: What non-Bing music have you been listening to recently?

No, Ian, my programs aren't archived.

 

13/4/2022 4:25 am  #53


Re: What non-Bing music have you been listening to recently?

Graham Pascoe wrote:

No, Ian, my programs aren't archived.

That's such a shame, as I imagine you will put a lot of work into them.
I have often wished to create one myself (strictly scripted) but both task wise and technically, it would overwhelm me.
Plus, I have a voice that on the few occasions I've had to listen to it, makes me grieve for those who constantly do..

 

18/4/2022 7:33 pm  #54


Re: What non-Bing music have you been listening to recently?

A belated Happy Easter and holiday to everyone.

Just to pick up slightly from a message of Ron's on this subject (from five years ago).

Although not strictly categorised as a singer but with a rich legacy of rhythm and having introduced many classics of the Great American Songbook, I've been enjoying some of the recordings made by dancing great, Bing friend and sometime co-star, Fred Astaire. During this bank holiday Monday, while washing and tidying away after the departure of some Easter guests, I took a listen to Fred's two final solo albums.

As some of you may be aware, these were laid down during the same 1975 UK visit for his "A Couple of Song and Dance Men" duet project with Bing. Of particular interest for this listen was the less familiar of the two solo LPs, "Attitude Dancing". Featuring songs not as instantly familiar with Astaire such as, "That Face", there's also some contemporary numbers of the day. All were arranged by later Bing stalwart, Pete Moore (even with funky disco beats and twangy electric guitars featuring on the title track), this gave the album a most modern (albeit 1970's) feel, in complete contrast from Fred's more recognisable recordings from his musical film days.

His complimenting LP from the same sessions, "They Can't Take These Away from Me", contains a dozen of his traditional film hits ("Cheek to Cheek", "Top Hat", Etc). Although still relatively contemporarily, Mr Moore's arrangements on this one are a little more muted and sympathetic towards those musical film days of Fred's.

As heard on the Crosby album, Fred was still in decent voice throughout, although age and (according to a later biography he collaborated on) decades of LA smog had by then "husked" it a little. However, although a less conventional sounding Astaire, both albums have the required toe tapping effect with Fred's famed interpretative skills remaining as undiminished as ever. For once, washing those endless dishes and repositioning furniture proved to be most pleasurable indeed. 

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27/4/2022 5:27 am  #55


Re: What non-Bing music have you been listening to recently?

Ian's reference Fred Astaire is timely in that my next radio program will include a couple of songs from the movie Easter Parade in which Fred and Judy Garland sang that delightful song 'A Couple of Swells'. Why am I including them? Because Australians first had the opportunity to see the movie in April 1949.

 

27/4/2022 12:35 pm  #56


Re: What non-Bing music have you been listening to recently?

Speaking of Fred Astaire recordings, I can not find the LP of "They Can't Take These Away From Me". I have "Attitude Dancing", and I have all the recordings on CD, but I would love to have a copy on LP. Holler, if you know any sources to find it.

 

27/4/2022 5:49 pm  #57


Re: What non-Bing music have you been listening to recently?

Lobosco wrote:

Speaking of Fred Astaire recordings, I can not find the LP of "They Can't Take These Away From Me". I have "Attitude Dancing", and I have all the recordings on CD, but I would love to have a copy on LP. Holler, if you know any sources to find it.

David,
Lovely to hear you're a Fred fan, too.
Yes, I've found a lovely looking copy on the "Discogs" website (see the link for that particular copy, below).

https://www.discogs.com/sell/item/434636235

I don't know how international single web page links operate but please don't be alarmed if a large postage charge of twenty-nine dollars (double the album price) is showing. This will be the price to ship this to the UK (where I'm based and where I of course accessed this link). This is if the website hasn't already adjusted the page for postage within mainland America. Here's also a link to the general sales page for this item:

https://www.discogs.com/master/682584-Fred-Astaire-Attitude-Dancing

It often tempts trouble when I "thoroughly recommend" anything but with this, I feel (as a customer only) on fairly safe ground. If you're unfamiliar with this site, it specialises in vinyl sales (and CDs) from independent merchants. I have been a fairly regular customer on there for almost five years, having placed orders from all over the world (and many from the USA). I have found most of its merchants most reputable and reliable, indeed. Ebay is fine but one can sometimes be the victim (as was I last month) of a perfectly nice dealer but one just entirely unaccustomed to the selling, grading and packaging of CDs and vinyl.

On Discogs, for the most part, LPs are generally more accurately graded and dispatched within specialist designed, fully protective corrugated cardboard LP mailers. As with Ebay, customer "Feedback" is just as important (if not more) to each dealer's reputation, so this gives most of them the impetuous to provide a high quality service. Having said that, it is (with knowing through a single poor experience out of 217 transactions) possible for individual merchants to appeal to have poor feedback reviews removed - but in the main, I have found their customer reviews to be accurately reflective of the service each provides. Also as with Ebay, you have the security of being able to purchase via PayPal.

Just a final few words on this (promise!). If you do decide to purchase either this or any other copy on offer, I would always without fail, order a "Mint" or "Near-Mint" graded copy if you prefer being completely free of crackles from a seller with generally excellent "Feedback reviews. I appreciate the Discogs gradings are made very clear - please see the link, here:       

https://support.discogs.com/hc/en-us/articles/360001566193-How-To-Grade-Items

- but despite this, there are often disputes between sellers and buyers as to what constitutes a Very Good ("VG") or a Very Good Plus ("VG+") piece of vinyl.

Unless you're prepared to take that chance (which can sometimes be very positive indeed), I just don't think it's worth the trouble and disappointment. Many sellers will but many sellers won't fund any return postage incurred if they feel they have been accurate. However, I have recieved a few refunds without having to even return an appallingly misgraded item. I appreciate all this is possibly going way off topic, so should this be the case, please feel free to privately message me if you wish to chat, further.

 

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27/4/2022 6:12 pm  #58


Re: What non-Bing music have you been listening to recently?

Hi Ian,
I buy about 75% of my records from Discogs. I have the "Attitude Dancing" one. I believe I bought if off Discogs!
The other one "They Can't Take Those Away Me" is very elusive. I've been looking for that one.

I have some favorite sellers on Discogs that I buy from regularly!

 

27/4/2022 6:45 pm  #59


Re: What non-Bing music have you been listening to recently?

Oh, David! I am so sorry. I need to be hit with the "Not listening" stick, don't I? Despite what you said, I still blithely  had "Attitude Dancing" on the brain from Easter. Plus, before attacking you full on, essay style,  how easy would it have been to have just initially asked if you'd previously purchased from Discogs? Oh dear! No, there doesn't seem to be one for sale on there close to you at all, does there? I'll keep a lookout and if I find anything via anyone else and nearer your neck of the woods, I'll give you a shout. Otherwise, it's going to have to be that infuriating decision whether or not to pay for the album at least twice over again with some international postage and import taxes. Grrrr .. 
Apologies again for not absorbing!

 

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27/4/2022 6:50 pm  #60


Re: What non-Bing music have you been listening to recently?

Ian Kerstein wrote:

Oh, David! I am so sorry. I need to be hit with the "Not listening" stick, don't I? Despite what you said, I still blithely  had "Attitude Dancing" on the brain from Easter. Plus, before attacking you full on, essay style,  how easy would it have been to have just initially asked you'd previously purchased from Discogs? Oh dear! No, there doesn't seem to be one for sale on there close to you at all, does there? I'll keep a lookout and if I find anything via anyone else and nearer your neck of the woods, I'll give you a shout. Otherwise, it's going to have to be that infuriating decision whether or not to pay for the album at least twice over again with some international postage and import taxes. Grrrr .. 
Apologies again for not absorbing!

No worries! Thanks for keeping an eye open. I used to just get records from Ebay, but I find Discogs to be much cheaper. I got some real gems through them. I recollected most of the Bing's Hollywood series of LPS through Discogs.


 

 

 

04/5/2022 3:50 pm  #61


Re: What non-Bing music have you been listening to recently?

David,

No rush but I sent you a  Private Message on this yesterday. I think it was just within the maximum characters permitted. Let me know if it hasn't reached you (it's showing in my "Sent" box) but being a "newbie" on here, I'm uncertain if that is a definitive sign if hovering around the "character" limit. Please let me know at your leisure if it hasn't appeared and I'll edit and send it again.

Kind regards,
Ian. 

 

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