24/10/2025 10:31 pm  #1


Bing and Fred's Album "A Couple of Song and Dance Men"

With this year of 2025 being the fiftieth anniversary of this wonderfully entertaining album, are there any members out there in Bingland, who still enjoy this work? I believe it was recorded in England in the summer of 1975 with some interestingly chosen songs and the chemistry of its two stars remained undimmed since they'd previously worked together, thirty years before in their film "Blue Skies". 

Just to get things going, I first heard of this LP in 1987, courtesy of BBC Radio 2's Benny Green and his Sunday afternoon "Song Show" programme, where each week for an hour, the renowned musician, writer and broadcaster would celebrate the art of the popular song (The Great American Songbook). The first track I  heard from this album was Cole Porter's, "I've a Shooting Box in Scotland", which remains my firm favourite. 

 

24/10/2025 10:54 pm  #2


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I adore this album, Fred always joked about Bing being his favorite dance partner, but it wouldn’t surprise me if they were one of each other’s favorite singing partners. Their chemistry is electric.


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24/10/2025 11:17 pm  #3


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Bing and Fred were indeed magical together, this is indeed one of the best 1970s album and my favorite track from here is ''Top Billing" when at they end Bing goes off script creating a memorable moment leaving Fred totally speechless.

 

24/10/2025 11:19 pm  #4


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Ian Kerstein wrote:

 The first track I  heard from this album was Cole Porter's, "I've a Shooting Box in Scotland", which remains my firm favourite. 

I have a favorite lyric from here sung by Fred "An apartment building in Greece" I really don't know why the Scotland one was uses as a title, I am thinking that I am actually living in a kind of place described in a Crosby/Astaire song.

 

 

24/10/2025 11:20 pm  #5


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I consider "Top Billing" album to be one of if not the best of the bing albums with Ken Barnes, Bing and Fred should have recorded more albums together.

 

24/10/2025 11:21 pm  #6


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Well said! I quite agree.
 

 

24/10/2025 11:40 pm  #7


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I agree, folks. They had great chemistry - both vocal and personal, neither one is trying to outmatch the other and the warmth they had for each other, really comes across on this album. 

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24/10/2025 11:43 pm  #8


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Pantelis Kavouras wrote:

Ian Kerstein wrote:

 The first track I  heard from this album was Cole Porter's, "I've a Shooting Box in Scotland", which remains my firm favourite. 

I have a favorite lyric from here sung by Fred "An apartment building in Greece" I really don't know why the Scotland one was uses as a title, I am thinking that I am actually living in a kind of place described in a Crosby/Astaire song.

 

.. and to think this song at the time arrived at the studio with some of Porter's verses missing. Fred so wished for it to be included, so Ken Barnes had to hastily come up with some more lyrics. 

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24/10/2025 11:48 pm  #9


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ModernBingFan0377 wrote:

I adore this album, Fred always joked about Bing being his favorite dance partner, but it wouldn’t surprise me if they were one of each other’s favorite singing partners. Their chemistry is electric.

Yes, they seem to bask in each other's company, don't they? 

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25/10/2025 1:37 pm  #10


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STEPO wrote:

I consider "Top Billing" album to be one of if not the best of the bing albums with Ken Barnes, Bing and Fred should have recorded more albums together.

Yes, their duetting and bantering was infectious. I thought Pete Moore's arrangements and Ken Barnes' production served the project beautifully. Plus their solo choices seemed extremely carefully chosen and performed with such emotional understanding. Stepo, I'm already compiling in my mind another album for them. It would have been lovely for them to have recorded "Sing", which they performed together on Bing's Christmas special that year. Does anyone have any notable favourites from this album? 
 

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25/10/2025 1:45 pm  #11


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"Pick Yourself Up" is a standout track.

 

25/10/2025 2:03 pm  #12


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It really is. I think it's one of the best written songs featured on the album. I really enjoy the sung/spoken interplay and special material between the two, echoing Fred's routine with Ginger in Swingtime, all those decades before. 

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25/10/2025 3:49 pm  #13


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Fred did it with Mary Frances in the 1975 Christmas special. It is a very nice and funny number.
Bing and Fred did a great job with the material
Here is the link, 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWMbD4V8znY

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25/10/2025 4:17 pm  #14


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Of course, How could that one be forgotten. It's very sweet and warm. 
I thought Bing and Fred, with Harry on guitar singing "You've Got a Friend" from the same special would have been another nice idea for our potential "Another Couple of Song and Dance Men" sequel album. 

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25/10/2025 5:34 pm  #15


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“You’ve Got A Friend” has to be one of my favorites from the ‘70s era of Bing and it’s a shame he never gave it a commercial recording. Thankfully the live version was released and of course the TV Bing and Fred duet which was marvelous.


Sing a song of sunbeams, let the notes fall where they may, sing a song of sunbeams in a light fantastic way.
 

27/10/2025 8:32 am  #16


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Yes that's true, You've Got A Friend is a great song that suited Bing's vocal style like a glove and Harry was so good at the guitar he could have made it as guitarist to a commercial recording as well. 

 

30/10/2025 4:01 pm  #17


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ModernBingFan0377 wrote:

“You’ve Got A Friend” has to be one of my favorites from the ‘70s era of Bing and it’s a shame he never gave it a commercial recording. Thankfully the live version was released and of course the TV Bing and Fred duet which was marvelous.

Yes, the live "Palladium" version between Bing and Harry (again, on guitar) is indeed marvellous. Very moving between father and son. 
 

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30/10/2025 4:05 pm  #18


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Pantelis Kavouras wrote:

Yes that's true, You've Got A Friend is a great song that suited Bing's vocal style like a glove and Harry was so good at the guitar he could have made it as guitarist to a commercial recording as well. 

Lovely point, Pantelis. It's simplicity and beautiful writing of both melody and lyrics made it a contemporary song of that time which someone deserves praise for choosing. It really would have been super to have had it committed to a second Bing and Fred album. 

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30/10/2025 4:07 pm  #19


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... or how about a potential "Harry and Son" Bing album project for 1978? 

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31/10/2025 10:08 pm  #20


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Oh yes, beside the planned Crosby/Hope album I would love to hear him recording with his family more. Harry as a talented guitarist he would have been great in al album with his father. I always wanted him to make a duet album with Kathryn as well, specially in the late 50s when her vocals where at their primes as it shows from her vocal quality in Away In a Manger (1958). Perhaps he should have record more with the Buskin team as Bing Crosby and Friends to include all his family and a singer like Rosie Clooney.

 

22/3/2026 9:15 pm  #21


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Did the whole family perform "Sing" on the 1976 Palladium album or am I becoming agedly confused with the Christmas television special where Bing sang this with Fred and a year before on British telly with Vera Lynn? Someone please come to my memory rescue! 

Ooooooh, yes please, another Bing and Rosie album would have been a wonderful tie-in for their continued world tour in 1978. A small group, swinging jazz based one with Joe Bushkin would have been wonderful. Possibly as a tribute to Fred from both of them? Fred did a hugely effective, mid-career small group jazz album with Oscar Peterson. There would certainly have been enough great songs to go at, there. Bing still sounded great in the studio with a small group, as witnessed on the final album track he was to record in America in early 1977, "Don't Get Around Anymore" with a quartet led by saxophonist Scott Hamilton.

An album with wife Kathryn would have been most interesting. She did a very sweet job in duetting live on "My Cup Runneth Over" with Bing on the Palladium album. A potential version of "True Love" would have been especially charming. 

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25/7/2026 12:02 am  #22


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I was revisiting this thread, and no Ian, you were not becoming agedly confused, haha, the family did perform "Sing" on the Palladium live album!

The album I have overtime began to wish had happened the most was the proposed Joe Venuti album, just letting Bing let loose with a man he had performed with since so early on in his career. The "Lady Be Good" version from the radio with Bing, Venuti, and Tommy Dorsey has fast became one of my favorite Bing performances.

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25/7/2026 1:28 am  #23


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Oh thank you - and thank goodness for that!!!!
Can I really push the boat out now and claim to remember they all sang "Sing" as Bing was introducing his family on to the Palladium stage? I know the answer is for me to dig the album out and give it a listen but please forgive me for now happily chancing my aging memory, again.

Oh yes!!!!! Brilliant!!! An album with Joe Venuti, please. They were sublime together and the gorgeous, superior stereo-analogue sounds made possible by 1970's recording technology would have made that a dream project, wouldn't it? I adore it when Bing sings out and out jazz at anytime in his career and it's so perfect that this was the age that musically gave birth to him. Additionally, a version of just Bing and Joe duetting to the Gershwins' "Summertime" would have been sublime, nicely creating a possible rival to pal Louis and Ella's recording? 

Mind you, in the cheating death stakes, they would have had to have acted with haste, as Mr Venuti was sadly gathered that very next year of 1978. 

Any more suggestions for our "Bing Sings, Joe Strings" LP? 
I'm pushing for speedy treatments of "Fascinating Rhythm" and "I've Got Rhythm" - possibly to open either side. 
Clearly, I'm currently hallucinating that I'm Ken Barnes.
I need to go and lie down before I start wondering why United Artists and John Warner haven't returned my calls.

 

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25/7/2026 3:18 am  #24


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To further help your memory, Bing introduced the family and then they all sang "Sing" together.

On the Venuti strain of thought, I believe it was one of the albums that was considered for Bing's 6 album run at Polydor. Some of the other albums that were proposed was a sports themed album and the Bing-Bob duet album that was already in the works by the time of his passing. With Decca UK, Bing would've done an album of Noel Coward songs. I think there were a few more albums that I've scrounged around through different texts to see what the concept of them would've been, but they've slipped my mind at the moment.

A later career version of "Summertime" would've been wondrous. It was initially one of the songs Bing had considered for Seasons, though I think the Summer ballad choice went to "Summer Wind." I would've liked to see Bing do a proper recording of "'Tis Autumn," there exists a radio version, but I think the combo of Bing and Venuti would do wonders with it.

Haha! I hope you can have some good dreams, maybe you'll be able to get a vivid enough one of working with Bing in the studio... I actually had a dream where I was watching one of his concerts once, family and Rosemary Clooney were there too, I think it's about the closest I can get to experiencing one of his concerts live...!

My main Bing wish in terms of albums though, is that I wish he had revisited some of his Decca songs, whether big hits or more obscure ones, and done re-recordings in stereo and with the renewed interpretation of Bing in the '70s. I think about the 1976 version of "What's New," which I find vastly superior to his 1939 version, as a good example of what could've been. Ah well, he has so many recordings as is, that it almost feels selfish to be thinking about what could've been.


Sing a song of sunbeams, let the notes fall where they may, sing a song of sunbeams in a light fantastic way.
 

26/7/2026 12:12 am  #25


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Ah, yes! I remember, now. Thank you. 
I must dig out my copy of that double Palladium album and listen to it, again.
I thought Bing's performance on it was masterful and his beautifully casual and mannered personality shone throughout. The other lovely thing is that nothing seemed to phase him. If he forgot the odd lyric then it dealt with it all so smoothly, it just seemed a natural part of the show. I've been lucky enough to  have met and spoken with a number of our members who were present at both the 1976 and 1977 Palladium performances and they have all said what a unique experience it was to see such a master at work - except despite it being a near three hour performance, dear Bing never made it appear as work. 

Funnily enough, I've never had a dream where Bing has featured. I envy you.
Both my mother and I on separate occasions have dreamt about Bob Hope.
My mother could not remember her dream's circumstances - but she had it soon after we'd seen him in concert in the autumn of 1984. My later dream about Bob was visiting him on his death bed, of all things (before he died). 
Admittedly, not too cheerful - but most vivid. 

I'd never heard of a sports themed album as one of Bing's future projects. That sounds so imaginative. Mind you, not being sports orientated (I was the bane of my games school teachers lives) I can only think of "Take Me Out to the Ballgame", "Straight Down the Middle" and the UK novelty songs "Football Crazy"  and "Cricket, Lovely Cricket". I know there must be plenty of others which would have suited Bing far more. Could you let me know once you've recalled which other possible future album projects were being discussed?

For that Joe Venuti joint venture, may I also add as suggestions a rip-roaring "Sweet Georgia Brown", a mellow "La Mer" (Beyond the Sea) and "How High the Moon"? 

I must say I am delighted that Bing chose "Summer Wind"  for "Seasons". It's one of my favourite tracks on my very favourite solo album of his. The arrangements are stunning and I feel Bing's interpretive skills, particularly on the afore mentioned song and "Yesterday When I was Young" gives both Sinatra and Aznavour a good run for their money. 

I completely agree with Bing's later recording of "What's New" being superior to his earlier one. "Feels Good, Feels Right" is an album until recently, I unfairly overlooked. Bing's 1970's period is my favourite of his recording decades. I fully appreciate and respect the view that other members feel his voice by that time had aged and I can't argue with that. However, don't you think it had taken on such a deeper, more resonant and reflective tone? 

Praise be to Ken Barnes for enabling Bing's gloriously recorded Indian Summer. 

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