18/10/2021 1:37 pm  #1


NOVEMBER MOVIE OF THE MONTH: The Emperor Waltz

For the month of November, our movie is the 1948 movie The Emperor Waltz. Once you watch the movie, get the conversation started by talking about anything you noticed, etc about the movie!

 

19/10/2021 1:37 am  #2


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I don't know if it wass intentional or not, but it feels like Bing's character was turned up to 11 on the usual persona. For example, Blue Skies' Bing, while featuring all of the traits of Bing's character here, is a much more mellow character. Whether this was intentional or not, I think it definitely makes me like it more with just how expressive he is in this.


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19/10/2021 1:07 pm  #3


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I think Bing was quoted as saying is he did that on purpose, and I don't feel the louder and more aggressive persona worked for Bing too much.

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19/10/2021 7:01 pm  #4


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I think it works in the context of this movie, but it weren’t for the context I don’t think it would work nearly as well.


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28/10/2021 6:47 pm  #5


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I plan to watch this movie this weekend, but I do have to say I love the title song. It is one of my favorite Bing recordings and really an underrated gem.

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28/10/2021 11:17 pm  #6


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For the past couple years I've been watching a classic old comedy movie every Sunday.  Much like they were originally on regular TV B.C. (before cable)..  Movies like Ma & Pa Kettle, Bowery Boys, Blondie, Lum & Abner movies, W.C. FIelds, and shorts from Thelma Todd & Zasu Pitts, Laurel & Hardy well I could go on but I watch a different "star" every Sunday and I revolve them and about every 6 weeks I'm back to the comedy star I saw before and watch their next movie and on and on.   

Well about a year or maybe it was 2 years ago I put Bing Crosby movies into the revolving pile of comedy movies.   So every 6 weeks I've seen a different Bing movie.   I started watching Bing's oldest movies as those are the ones I've seen least.   I've kept a list of every Bing movie I've seen on Sundays to be sure not to repeat any till I've seen them all.  Just this past Sunday I watched my favorite Bing movie for October "Welcome Stranger" I see this one about every other year in October.  

But I haven't yet got to "Emperor Waltz" in my recent every 6 week Bings, so I will happily join in the discussion next month for this great color Bing movie.   Some of the music in this movie is really beautiful.  But I won't say anymore till next month.

Glad you started up the Bing Movie of the Month Club again, David.    Sometimes we forget to watch the many Bing movies there are and a Bing a month helps people watch Bing's they may not have seen in a long time.   So looking forward to hearing from a lot of Bingsters here. 

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03/11/2021 4:16 pm  #7


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So I watched The Emperor Waltz finally. I used to think what was wrong with the film was Bing having a more aggressive personality. However, it is not that too much over the top. I feel what is lacking in the movie is chemistry between Joan Fontaine and Bing. They did not seem to mesh well.

Bing had wanted Deanna Durbin or even Greta Garbo! 

What makes the movie great is the music!

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03/11/2021 4:18 pm  #8


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My favorite song from The Emperor Waltz:



The song was even features on Saturday Night Live in the 1980s in a serious skit. It's a beautiful song!

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03/11/2021 10:32 pm  #9


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Lobosco wrote:

I feel what is lacking in the movie is chemistry between Joan Fontaine and Bing. They did not seem to mesh well.

At least with the movie's I've seen her in, she hasn't had too great of chemistry. Part of it is, I think, is that her characters' continuously estrange themselves from the stars.

I also think part of it is that, the mood on the set wasn't the greatest, as there had been stories, I am not sure of the truth of them, that it wasn't the best behind scenes with Bing and Billy Wilder. Apparently though Joan Fontaine's appearance on Bing's TV they had much better chemistry.


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06/11/2021 8:08 pm  #10


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I haven't seen the video of Emperor Waltz yet but some here have talked about Bing's over aggressive style being off putting.  Now I can't comment on it in this movie but I can say having just watched "Welcome Stranger" that Bing was really overly aggressive in this movie.  Talk about not taking a hint, he just keeps on moving in no matter how obvious the rebuffs.  This might all be just a matter of today's ever so sensitive feewings about men being men instead of cream puffs.   I like the days better when men were men and women were glad of it.

 

07/11/2021 2:55 am  #11


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And it was during the filming that Bing won the Totem Pole Golf Tournament at Jasper Park Lodge.
Have you seen the photo of Bing and the black bear outside the Pro shop.
Inside the Lodge there are a couple of photos of Bing on display.
I believe Bing promised his caddy a new suit for any birdies that he had. Think he had to buy two new suits. He birdied the 18th when he was very close to a tree at the back of the green.

 

07/11/2021 12:16 pm  #12


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Archiefit wrote:

I haven't seen the video of Emperor Waltz yet but some here have talked about Bing's over aggressive style being off putting.  Now I can't comment on it in this movie but I can say having just watched "Welcome Stranger" that Bing was really overly aggressive in this movie.  Talk about not taking a hint, he just keeps on moving in no matter how obvious the rebuffs.  This might all be just a matter of today's ever so sensitive feewings about men being men instead of cream puffs.   I like the days better when men were men and women were glad of it.

I think by 1947/148 Bing had played "Bing" so many times, that he was looking for different angles for his characters in movies. I liked Welcome Stranger and I liked The Emperor Waltz more than I thought I would, but I did not care for Bing and Joan Fontaine as love interests. Now Bing and Joan Caulfield were another story...for another time!
 

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08/11/2021 6:45 pm  #13


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Ron Field wrote:

And it was during the filming that Bing won the Totem Pole Golf Tournament at Jasper Park Lodge.
Have you seen the photo of Bing and the black bear outside the Pro shop.
Inside the Lodge there are a couple of photos of Bing on display.
I believe Bing promised his caddy a new suit for any birdies that he had. Think he had to buy two new suits. He birdied the 18th when he was very close to a tree at the back of the green.

 It was the following year that Bing won the Totem Pole Golf Tournament.

 

08/11/2021 7:22 pm  #14


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Here is an interesting "what if" question...

Do you think the movie would be viewed differently today if Greta Garbo would have starred in it?

 

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22/11/2021 2:25 am  #15


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Well, today was the big day, the day I watched Emperor's Waltz and what a pleasure in every sense it was.  First of all the brilliant color bowls you over (I wish today's movies had such beautiful color) and what a perfect choice for a movie to be filmed in color.   So much beautiful scenery and Bing's blue eyes really glow in this movie.   I've never been one to notice eyes, but you can't help it this time.   Seeing this color Bing makes me look forward to seeing the color version of Holiday Inn next month! 

I listened to the radio version of Emperor's Waltz a couple weeks ago on my Sounds Like Radio podcast and the biggest difference I notice now is Bing was nicer in the radio version and the story was really edited down to fit into an hour on radio.  

The first part of the movie Bing acts like pretty much a real jerk but after about a 1/2 hour Bing's back to his more natural likeable self.   Like in Welcome Stranger that I saw last month Bing acts very pushy in the beginning but then cools down.   In Emperor's Waltz though Bing's pushy act is on overdrive, thankfully though he does return to normal after a bit. 

Joan Fontaine plays the part of a look down your nose on someone a bit too well.   She definitely puts off an icy exterior here, warming up a couple times though in the movie.   I've seen her in Alfred Hitchcock movies and she wasn't as cold in them but still a bit unapproachable.  
 
If you've ever seen the '70's version of Match Game with Gene Rayburn, Fannie Flagg on that show does an excellent imitation of Joan Fontaine's look.  Fannie already has red hair and the look in the slight smile she shows while imitating Joan's look is perfect.

The music was beautiful, I always look forward to the yodeling scene on the mountain and when Bing finally sings the Emperor Waltz theme it's a thing of beauty disappointing though as it is really cut down for he only sings part of it as the movie is concluding.  I wish they had had Bing sing the entire song the way he does on the excellent Decca record.  Funny I always seem to get this song confused with I Kiss Your Hand Madame until I hear Emperor's Waltz sung by Bing then I know that's the song I have been waiting to hear.   I always think of that touching and sad scene on Saturday Night Live as Phil Hartman "sings" Bing's song.   Now I can't help but think of that anytime I hear Bing sing Emperor's Waltz.

At one point near the end of the movie Bing's dog suddenly looks all scraggly and his rib bones are sticking out and his hair is all every which way.   I'm thinking they must have used a stand-in dog for that scene but why they couldn't have gotten a better looking dog than that I don't know.  This one looks like he just emerged from the kennel after a fight.

One of my favorite parts of the movie is when Bing starts literally singing just like you'd like to hear and see Bing sing, he alters it a bit so now it goes like "Bee bee beeee bee baa baa booo, bee bee beee bee baaa bi booo".   A little different from his normal scat like you hear him do perfectly in the Legend of Sleepy Hollow cartoon but still I enjoyed his new version in Emperor's Waltz.   Made me laugh in appreciation.

Well, finally, I haven't seen this movie, I'll bet, in 10 years.  Last time I saw it I had a smaller TV now seeing it on bigger screen really was a thrill.  

It sure is nice seeing Bing for a change talk and sing, especially when you're used to just hearing him in his radio shows or records.  So glad for today's technology (in my case DVDs) that we are now able to see these great movies anytime we want instead of just hoping they pop up on TV one day.   I really should see this movie more often as it was a video treat.  
 

 

22/11/2021 2:23 pm  #16


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Great review of the movie! 

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