26/9/2018 1:07 am  #76


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Yes Jeremy, tend to agree with you about going through watching the shows as I just finished number 6 and once again the scissors have been put into action. Quite disappointing and disgusting really that the Crosby people allowed these to be put out as they have been.

 

26/9/2018 2:18 am  #77


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Ron, you mentioned you did enjoy the Bing Dublin G. O'Reilley special.   Knowing Time Life's penchant for re-using discs from previous commercial releases, is the disc of the Dublin special light olive green in background with the name "A Little Bit Of Irish" in typed white and Bing Crosby's name in yellow sort of fancy style?   If so, this is the exact same disc that was already released in 2006.   I know Time re-used the same disc as from Carol Burnett's previously released set.   So, figures they're recycling the same 2006 discs again. 

Well, while I'm really disappointed and disheartened to realize how chopped up this set is, I still will be buying it after I work up some more courage and ability to ignore the wrongs in this set.   I still wish they had left OUT all of the previously released commercial Bing discs, the "Legendary" disc, the Dublin disc, the Burnett disc, the many Bing TV specials that were ALREADY released a few short years ago from the now seemingly defunct Bing company called "Bing Crosby Television Specials" both Volumes 1 & 2 (HEY, Bing company, whatever happened to Bing Television Specials Volume 3, 4, 5, 6 and beyond??????) itself, the many times already released Bing-Sinatra Christmas disc, the Cooling It Dean-Bing special, all of the previously released Bing Christmas TV specials.   All of that could have been left OUT of the Time Life set and we'd all be very happy campers.   What is valuable to see still in this set even if it is chopped up unmercilessly, is the Astaire-BIng Christmas, the Gleason-Bing Christmas, Argentine concert, Bing 50th Anniv show, Bing & Friends & I suppose the Hope highlights thing.  That's all I really want to buy, the rest is a waste of my money.  I bet if they had just stuck to these the price would have been at least 1/2 what the cost is now.  If this was the case I'd have bought it already without all the trepidation I have now.

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26/9/2018 5:18 am  #78


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Irish and George titles were in green but a bit pale now due to time.

 

26/9/2018 8:12 am  #79


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The Time Life DVD labels all have a standard “in-house” design, but I think I’ve got the release of “A Little Bit of Irish” Archiefit is talking about. It’s on the Varese Sarabande label and I don’t think it’s the source for the Time Life disc because although the picture quality on the TL is acceptable enough, it’s noticeably sharper and brighter on the VS release.

 

05/10/2018 3:03 am  #80


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Have worked my way through and just finished vieŵing the 3 Christmas DVD's 75/76/77.
Yet again some one has gone mad with the scissors, chopping here and there Willey-nilly.
So far I'm finding the set disappointing with the way the DVD's have been cut even in a medley.
We fans try like heck to keep Bing in the frame as much as possible but I don't think we've been treated too fairly with this set.
On another note - on Sunday showing Bing's 6 Mack Sennett shorts at the Morton Roxy at 2.00pm - $5.00 admission, plus Errol Flynn's first film

 

08/10/2018 12:55 am  #81


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We had 25 paying punters at the Roxy for the Bing/Errol screening, plus a camera exhibition.
They seemed to have enjoyed the programme.
Would have liked a few more but there were more than the regular Friday & Saturday night
Regular movies combined, so that pleased me.

 

31/10/2018 12:21 am  #82


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Still haven't got to viewing number 7 yet.
As the others have been cut a bit I haven't been too enthused by finishing watching the DVD's.
Not a lot of comment so just wondering if we are all feeling a bit let down.

 

31/10/2018 3:33 am  #83


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The Bing Time set seems to have been divided into 2 separate groups, the first a 4 DVD set which contains all the shows any self-respecting Bing collector ALREADY has, all show previously already released in previous years.   The second set is the ONLY set I'd be interested in buying (even though most of it's contents I already have various "home made" BUT COMPLETE versions of) but this second set is worth having for the top visual video quality.  Here's a quoted Time overall description of this, for collectors, preferable set:
"The Best of the Bing Crosby Specials – 6 DVDsIncluded in this 6-DVD set are 12 of Bing’s acclaimed specials, along with hours of bonus features. You’ll see Bing’s 50th anniversary special and last TV special, Bing and Bowie’s recording of Peace on Earth/Little Drummer Boy, and episodes of The Carol Burnett Show and the Bob Hope TV specials with guest shots by Bing."

Then there's also a "bonus" DVD with Julie Andrews & Bing, another disc I'd like too. 

Now Time Life when they released the $100 multi-DVD set of Jackie Gleason's '60's color shows, after a year or so, they actually then released smaller and cheaper DVD sets made up of some of the same discs in the $100 set.   THIS is what I'm hoping Time Life  will do again, but this time for the $100 Bing set.  If they were to release the 2nd set described above I'd be happy to buy it (even if the shows are shredded http://cdn.boardhost.com/emoticons/cry.png
).   I hope Time will sooner or later release the 2nd set all by itself, then I buy.

 

12/11/2018 6:55 pm  #84


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Have finally got to view another of the DVD's - 50th. Anniversary show and the Argentina show.
The scissor man has been busy again. Was looking forward to the 50 which the booklet states includes Debbie Reynolds - no show, and the Crosby family - only Mary Frances pops up.
Thoroughly disappointed especially with the 50th as I was expecting to see when Bing fell.
The booklet should have been edited better but certainly the DVD content - almost like false advertising. It has happened right through the set.
Like ordering and paying for 2lb. oF mince meat and on arriving home you discover you only have a pound and a half.

 

26/7/2019 7:14 pm  #85


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I guess people actually got this.  It seems to have disappeared from Time-Life's website.  Does anyone know what happened?

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21/4/2020 7:31 pm  #86


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Reflecting I think that all of us who bought this set should receive our money back as the product was not very good at all. Very deceptive really and a big con job.
Those responsible for the compiling and scissor cutting should be really ashamed of themselves and all of us Bing fans that help keep Bing known to a newer generation should be treated a lot better.
One section I was really looking forward to was Bing and Perry.
The scissors weren’t used too cleverly either as the titles were run through at the end we never saw some of the guests that were supposed to be on weren’t seen at all.
I still have one DVD to look at.

 

21/4/2020 11:21 pm  #87


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I never had the chance to buy this Bing Time Hack job, it was discontinued almost overnight.  BUT, I know just how you feel.  Just last night I watched the final episode of the Bobby Darin Show from the MPI DVD set that supposedly contained all 13 episodes.  Every single one of the 13 episodes was hacked and cut unmercifully.  A 50 minute show was cut down to 22 minutes!   This means more than 1/2 of all the episodes were cut out.   But they didn't tell you that all episodes are hacked and chopped the set told you that "all 13 episodes" are there, not less than 1/2 of all 13 episodes are there. 

Now, I'll say one thing for MPI, in the DVD sets I've bought from them in the past I have gotten uncut episodes.   The "Color" Honeymooners sets from MPI were uncut as were the Doris Day Shows, My Favorite Martian, Dark Shadows, Mothers In Law and every other TV series I've ever bought from MPI.   So I was very disappointed with this Bobby set to see that they treated this set the same way Time-Life treats all their TV releases, hacked and chopped with NO warning of the hack jobs contained.   I suppose one could look at the Bing Time set and the Jackie Gleason Show Time-Life set that I DID buy which is also terribly hacked and cut to ribbons,, the only way you can look at this to not kick yourself is to say "well, it's better than nothing."   That's the only consolation.   Though why MPI could release the color Jackie Gleason Honeymooners episodes including all the June Taylor Dancers opening numbers and all other music, why MPI could release these uncut but Time Life hacked them all and all June Taylor Dancer numbers were gone too, why MPI can do it right (at least up until now) but Time Life never can?

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22/4/2020 12:20 am  #88


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For instance TIme Life issued some Dean Martin roasts, but they cut out a lot of stuff including some of the best jokes from the roasts, and they didn't even include one of the most famous episodes.


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22/4/2020 12:31 am  #89


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At one time I had hoped to buy the set, even with the shredding of the contents. I'm not even sure if I do now though, unless I either find a cheap deal for them online, or they release some of the discs that were made for the set specifically for 10-20 dollars like the current TV Specials Volumes 1 & 2 are at price wise. The only TV specials I have in my collection are the ones from the TV Specials Volume 1 & 2 DVDs, his 1964 special with Rosemary Clooney, Frank, and Dean, A Bing Crosby Christmas (the 1978 compilation special), a couple Hollywood Palace shows that are available on YouTube, and a 1965 Bob Hope Christmas Special, so I would like this set, but at the retail price (even if it was still in production) I don't think I'd pay for it.


Every time it rains, it rains pennies from heaven.
 

22/4/2020 4:59 am  #90


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I was waiting for the set to be divided up so I could get only the one I wanted since I had most of it already from the Bing Enterprises releases 10 or more years ago.  Why Time added those already available sets in I have no idea.   But anyway they did a lousy job so no big loss.   GET TV showed most all Bing's Christmas specials from the '70's this past December, and one of those shows was in this Time set, one reason I wanted it.   But Get TV versions are better than what TIme was going to give anyway.  (GET TV versions are also cut.)

 

22/4/2020 10:32 am  #91


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Thanks for the information! Shame it isn't available outside the US and Canada. 

 

22/4/2020 11:08 am  #92


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I had some hopes that the subject of the, in my view very poor, Time Life bundle might have been conveniently forgotten. It is not a set that I would commend to anyone. And discs 1 and 3 are precise copies of, respectively  “The Television Specials Volume 1” disc 1 and “The Television Specials Volume 2 – The Christmas Specials” disc 1 right down to introductory graphics and “bonus material” issued by Bing Crosby Enterprises.

For the rest I take the liberty of lifting a paragraph from my own review in "Bing" magazine at the time. I said, as part of a much lengthier piece 
"- - - I fear that the negative points, which are many, far exceed the positives and I found the overall viewing experience frustrating, disappointing, bewildering and downright annoying in turns. Frustrating because in my view at least some of the best parts have been cut out. Disappointing because there is so much duplication with relatively recent issues. Bewildering because it is difficult to understand the rationale behind decisions to remove whole swathes of the core of the shows yet retain quantities of introductory material and end credits which do not reflect the editing that has taken place. Bewildering also because I cannot understand what audience Time Life might be aiming at. If at Crosby fans many of them will already have much of what is included here (and might share my frustrations at much of the remainder). But who apart from relatively keen fans would spend $100 on such a set? Annoying because I regard the very title as misleading – two whole discs are not Crosby specials at all, but those of Carol Burnett and Bob Hope. And, as mentioned it is highly debatable whether the best parts are actually included. Annoyed also because I feel that in the truncated form in which some of the shows are offered they fail to give a true representation of the shows. And a mixture of all the above because I feel very strongly that treatment by those with a true feeling for the material and the place of certain other artists in the Bing Crosby story and popular music of the era could have done so much better. - - -"

My full review included a detailed listing of the content of the discs and comment on what had been left out of the original shows. I refer ICC members to Bing #180, Winter 2018.

For those who might be more recent members (or not members at all), I will email a copy of my script if you email me. 


 

 

23/4/2020 11:25 am  #93


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Richard’s review says it all, really...

I did buy the set when it was first released (thanks to Ron Field, who kindly dealt with ordering and forwarding on behalf of non-USA members) and shared the general feeling of a wonderful opportunity completely wasted. Given the editorial care that BCE took over their CD releases - and yes, I know they recycled a lot of stuff from the Mosaic release! - I can’t believe that they had much input into the selection and editing of the material.

Personally speaking, one of the most frustrating aspects of the whole enterprise was seeing snippets of shows in pristine quality that had previously only been available in fuzzy YouTube clips and realising that the entire shows were out there in amazing quality and we’re never likely to see them.

 

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