25/3/2019 5:27 pm  #26


Re: BING magazine

The next BING magazine is being prepared. See http://www.bingmagazine.co.uk/bingmagazine/BING181.html

 

26/3/2019 2:41 am  #27


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Nice cover photo, Malcolm.
Guess you and Pat have suntans.

 

28/3/2019 5:53 am  #28


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I'm looking forward to it Malcolm.

 

06/7/2019 11:11 am  #29


Re: BING magazine

The summer edition of BING magazine is being printed and should be available later this month. See www.bingmagazine.co.uk/bingmagazine/BING182.html

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24/7/2019 4:33 am  #30


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Mine arrived today - Tuesday - west coast USA.
Like the new print type especially the blue ‘headings’.

 

01/11/2019 12:49 pm  #31


Re: BING magazine

The winter edition of BING magazine has been sent to the printers and will be available towards the end of November.
See http://www.bingmagazine.co.uk/bingmagazine/BING183.html

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04/3/2020 3:52 pm  #32


Re: BING magazine

The spring issue of BING magazine has been sent to the printers and will be out later this month. 
See http://bingmagazine.co.uk/bingmagazine/BING184.html

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08/3/2020 12:38 pm  #33


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Malcolm Macfarlane wrote:

The spring issue of BING magazine has been sent to the printers and will be out later this month. 
See http://bingmagazine.co.uk/bingmagazine/BING184.html

I am a little surprised that no one has commented on a couple of items that Malcolm has mentioned  at this link to his introduction to the next issue of "Bing".

He says firstly  "I wonder whether it would be a commercial proposition for Decca to give the London Symphony Orchestra treatment to Bing’s hits of the 40s and 50s.  It would certainly be interesting.
An interesting idea, surely. The "Bing At Christmas" album was able to rely and build on the known popularity of "White Christmas", but the success of that album must offer leverage to extend the range to the great hits, and if the same treatment could be applied to some of them, may there not be a winner?

Secondly Malcolm says "One of Bing’s radio series that has not been mined too extensively is Philco Radio Time and we have been working with Sepia Records to put together a 2-CD set of selected songs from the series. See Keeping Track for full details. An insert is enclosed with this issue for you to order it. You’ll be delighted with the quality."
 

Does that not open doors to expectation and speculation about what is in store? What could be included? Some songs titles not issued as studio recordings perhaps? Two or three or four (or more?) not previously on CD?. 
What is in everyone's wish basket and how might this set meet expectations?
 
 

 

09/3/2020 4:25 am  #34


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I hates to toot my own horn, but I remember talking about a possible future release of stereo versions of Bing's Decca hits in my discussion of the new Christmas CD.  Mind you I'd like to hear stereo versions of Bing's DECCA songs NOT remake stereo versions of already existing Bing stereo recordings as the last Christmas release chose to do.  I was very happy with Bing's Capitol original Christmas album didn't need the last CD to reinvent the wheel with their stereo retreads.  BUT stereo versions of Bing's Decca records would be a delight.   And I don't just mean Bing's Greatest Hits, I would just as soon not hear a stereo version of Pistol Packin' Mammy but would love to hear a stereo version of One Rose Left In My Heart.   So many great Bing songs that weren't of the overplayed "hits" variety that I'd love hearing stereo versions of.   Will this happen?  Somehow I expect a stereo version of Accent The Positive before I ever hear a stereo version of  I Can't Begin To Tell You, knowing the bunch that chose the last batch for stereofying.   Think outside the box, huh, fellas?

As for not enough Philco, while I'd like to see a new CD with more Philco songs, I seem to recall Philco songs on many of the Bing radio compilation CDs I have.   Maybe I'm wrong, I haven't actually looked thru them all to verify.  But even so, I guess I could stand a CD of other Philco song excerpts.  But I'm not dying for it.    

What I'd really like though is to see Bing's TV sitcom complete released on DVD.  Now that's something really worth anticipating.   Or how about if it's only CDs we can hope for, how about complete versions of Bing's  mid 1955 thru all of 1956 radio 15 min shows?   Aside from a handful that Bing internet will hit you with every so often out of the blue when it's too late to hear it from the beginning since they NEVER announce in advance their schedule.   I'd like an Mp3 CD set of all of these 15 min shows.  Now there's another Bing Dream release of mine.  

While more Philco songs would be nice, maybe (since I have all the shows already on CD) what I really would like to see is Bing stuff we DON'T already have.

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09/3/2020 5:16 am  #35


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Along with the full series of the Bing Crosby Show maybe a Bing Crosby Television Specials Volume Three would be nice. Of course you were speculating but I’d those over the Philco CD. I’d still like to see a Philco CD don’t get me wrong, but usually if I have the chance I’d rather sing Bing song than just hear him sing. Especially songs with a good beat a rhythm, he looks like he’s having so much fun when his whole body is bopping to the rhythm.


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09/3/2020 7:43 am  #36


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Archiefit wrote:

   - - Or how about if it's only CDs we can hope for, how about complete versions of Bing's  mid 1955 thru all of 1956 radio 15 min shows?   Aside from a handful that Bing internet will hit you with every so often out of the blue when it's too late to hear it from the beginning since they NEVER announce in advance their schedule.   I'd like an Mp3 CD set of all of these 15 min shows.  Now there's another Bing Dream release of mine.  
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I think, Archiefit, that you'd find such a series very repetitive. The songs were used again and again from that "library" and almost all of them have been released in superb quality sound. What we have not got of them on CD (though many are on the internet), is Bing's almost philosophical comment on then current happenings, jocular introductions and verbal interplay with Rosemary Clooney. Even standard studio recordings popped up in some. On the other hand, some of the radio shows from the Philco / Chesterfield / GE series do have "unmined" material, and a great deal is very attractive.
 

 

10/3/2020 4:00 am  #37


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Sorry but the shows I would like to see become available are NOT on the internet or on CD or anywhere (other than Bing's library or a very quiet collector) they are the shows in particular from #s107 thru #550 (4/19/55 thru 12/28/56).   If you know of anywhere on the internet you can find these let me know, you can consider this a challenge.  I've looked everywhere already. And no, I would not consider them repetitive for the very fact that the main reason to listen to these shows in their entirety is not just to hear the songs but MAINLY to hear Bing's discussions on various topics. 

And also these 4/19/55 thru 12/28/56 are NOT I repeat NOT the ones where Bing and Rosie co-host a 20" show, they are 15" Bing only or maybe an occasional Lindsay shows.  So, no I am not talking about listening to the Rosie & Bing interplay, these Bing-Rosie shows didn't start up until 1960, 4 years after the shows I want. 

You may be satisfied by just hearing the songs and only the SOME of the songs on the Mosaic set, but I am not.  I not only want to hear the rest of the songs BUT I also want to hear the complete shows with Bing's talk, that's more important to me than only hearing the limited amount of songs that are on the Mosaic set.  

A CD of songs I already DO have from COMPLETE Philco shows (which is more important than song excerpts, by the way)  is not a priority in my collecting.  I could really care less about getting another copy of songs I already have from a superior collection of complete Philco shows that include not only Bing's talk but many many guest stars. 

I go back to what BIng releases I would like to see that is Bings that are NOT available everywhere else already & that's those 4/19/55 thru 12/28/56 shows and Bing's COMPLETE DVD set of his sitcom.   Now that would be something to look forward to and a guarantee of people buying.   More re-releases of re-releases are not a big deal to me and pretending this new release is the find of a lifetime just ain't good enough.  Let's see something we don't already have, then we can get really excited.

 

10/3/2020 7:52 am  #38


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Speaking personally, Archiefit, my interest in Bing centres on his singing voice and the songs, which I can hear and enjoy repeatedly. I suspect that most other fans would agree.
The other parts of radio shows are interesting but I doubt that many would think they are capable of sustained and repeated listening.
Producers of CDs have to consider potential sales and the main draw is undoubtedly the songs. Of those, from the sequence of shows you mention, we have the Mosaic set, and numbers of the songs not covered in that set have been covered as "bonuses" in subsequent issues from UMG/BCE.  There are not a great many untouched - I have not done a count but my impression is that the greater part have been covered in some way.

I agree with you that the non singing parts of the shows are interesting - they place things in an historical/current events context, but I can't imagine myself (or very many others) listening in a sustained basis, whereas music in general stands repetition: it swims around in your head and impacts on mood. You can hum along and it can remain with you for the rest of the day.  
I agree that not all the complete shows are on the internet, but significant numbers of the earlier sequence are.
  

 

10/3/2020 5:46 pm  #39


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I love listening to the complete shows, but I agree with Richard that such a release would almost certainly not be a commercially viable proposition. With regard to the proposed Sepia/Philco compilation, I think it’s a great idea. I’ve got a complete run of the Philco shows either on CD or stored digitally and there really is a wealth of amazing material to choose from. The complete Philco Crosby/Jolson duets have already been issued by Sepia, but even a cursory glance at the relevant listings in Lionel Pairpoint’s “...And Here’s Bing!” radio listings show that - even apart from Bing’s solos - there’s an opportunity to hear duets with the likes of Peggy Lee, Groucho Marx, Judy Garland, Maurice Chevalier and the wonderful Beatrice Lillie. I hope it comes to fruition...

 

10/3/2020 6:28 pm  #40


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It occurs to me, Archiefit, that the Crosby Internet Radio includes streams of those short shows in which you are interested, though they are intermixed with other items from KMH etc. What's more, they are in better quality than some of the other internet sources. I realise that there is a problem because you never know what is coming up in the schedule.
Right now I am listening to #46 - followed by #7

Have you tried it? https://bingcrosby.com/crosby-internet-radio

 

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10/3/2020 6:44 pm  #41


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jeremyrose wrote:

I love listening to the complete shows, but I agree with Richard that such a release would almost certainly not be a commercially viable proposition. With regard to the proposed Sepia/Philco compilation, I think it’s a great idea. I’ve got a complete run of the Philco shows either on CD or stored digitally and there really is a wealth of amazing material to choose from. The complete Philco Crosby/Jolson duets have already been issued by Sepia, but even a cursory glance at the relevant listings in Lionel Pairpoint’s “...And Here’s Bing!” radio listings show that - even apart from Bing’s solos - there’s an opportunity to hear duets with the likes of Peggy Lee, Groucho Marx, Judy Garland, Maurice Chevalier and the wonderful Beatrice Lillie. I hope it comes to fruition...

Mmmm - But we must remember that some of the frequent guests have been on CDs. There are some of the less regular - Dick Powell - Rhonda Fleming, Dorothy Kirsten who might be welcome - then there are the "residents"  - Lina Romay, the Rhythmaires, Loulie Jean Norman - I wonder which of them might put in an appearance.
All my idle speculation of course.

Two CDs - say 70 minutes plus per CD - that's 140 minutes and that could be running close to 60 songs at the typical length of the radio show songs.

I wonder  - - 


 

 

10/3/2020 7:12 pm  #42


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Point taken.. There are the Sunflower Records releases of the Peggy Lee duets, the last two volumes of the JSP 4-CD “The Vintage Years” set featuring Judy Garland and Jimmy Durante and the AVID 2-CD, “Bing Crosby and his Hollywood Guests” release. Still plenty to choose from, though..!

 

11/3/2020 1:22 am  #43


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Yes, I have heard SOME of these shows I'm talking about specifically from the Bing Internet home.   So far I've heard 13 of the shows I'd like, but that leaves another 200 to go.   Hardly satisfactory.   Which goes back to what I said to begin with, a 2 CD Mp3 set or maybe they could all fit on one Mp3 CD of the shows mentioned 4/19/55 thru 12/28/56.   Seeing that these are only 15" shows they could very well fit on one Mp3 CD.  And the cost would not be prohibitive.  The question really comes down to when will the Bing folk allow these gems out of the vault?   100 or 200 years from now?   I doubt if I'll be around then to enjoy.

As for the shows you've heard #46 is one I've already had in my collection and comes from 1/24/55, it's not in the set of dates I requested to hear either.  #7 is one I would like and haven't heard there.  

NOW THAT'S THE PROBLEM.   Why in the world doesn't that lousy Bing internet thing list a schedule of shows they are going to be playing in ADVANCE of when they just wind up springing it on you.   The only way to hear what you want is to listen 24 hours a day just waiting for that one show you'd like..

As they say, this ain't no way to run a railroad.

 

11/3/2020 2:53 pm  #44


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An interesting discussion! I know about the CD's with Philco material already in circulation, I have all the Philco shows, and yes, I love listening to the complete shows as well. But nonetheless I welcome the CD Malcolm mentioned with great anticipation, while practically all the CD's the ICC and Sepia have been involved in have something extra, be it in original research or concept, in sound quality, or in information (booklets) about the recordings.

 

11/3/2020 11:45 pm  #45


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I didn't know about any Philco show CDs in circulation, I made my own Philco CDs the old fashioned way, I recorded them from my cassette tapes that I had recorded from radio myself and those dates of shows I didn't have I bought them from a Bing seller before he was taken out of business by our dear friends at the Bing Institute.  So I made my Philco CDs just so I wouldn't have to worry about a cassette tape breaking in the tape player.   The CDs do make listening a pleasure though.  

But today collectors have it made in the shade.  To get yourself the Philco shows today all you have to do is download them yourself from the internet.   FREE!    To think all the money I spent on tapes over the years that today all you have to do is download for free everything you want.   Everything, that is, except for the shows I referenced, those from 4/19/55 thru 12/28/56.

 

30/3/2020 3:27 pm  #46


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To pick up on the mention of the new Philco Radio Time CD issue, for the benefit of those who are not ICC members and who have seen the full details in the recently circulated issue of "Bing", here is the full track list. - 

CD1
Oct. 16, 1946 - 1. Where the Blue of the Night intro 
Nov. 6, 1946 – 2. Five Minutes More 
Nov. 13, 1946 - 3. Timber - In the Evening by the Moonlight - You Are My Sunshine with Ezio Pinza*
Jan. 22, 1947 - 4. If You Were the Only Girl* / 5. La Borrachita with Lina Romay* / 6. I Love You) For Sentimental Reasons* 
Mar. 5, 1947 - 7. Anniversary Song with Al Jolson 
Mar. 12, 1947 - 8. Among My Souvenirs* 
April 30, 1947 - 9. Guilty* 
May 7, 1947 - 10. Country Style* / 11. Linda 
May 14, 1947 - 12. How Are Things in Glocca Morra?* 
May 28, 1947 - 13. Time after Time* 
Oct. 1, 1947 - 14. Medley - Mam’selle / Chi-Baba, Chi-Baba / Peg O’ My Heart* 
Oct. 8, 1947 - 15. Feudin’ and Fightin’ / 16. Medley - That’s My Desire / I Wonder, I Wonder / I Wonder Who’s Kissing Her* 
Oct. 15, 1947 - 17. Almost Like Being in Love 
Oct. 22, 1947 - 18. Sweet Betsy from Pike / Clementine with Burl Ives / 19. Just an Old Love of Mine* Nov. 5, 1947 - 20. You Do* 
Dec. 17, 1947 - 21. I Still Get Jealous* 
Jan. 21, 1948 - 22. With a Hey! And a Hi! And a Ho! Ho! Ho!* 
Jan. 28, 1948 - 23. The Best Things in Life Are Free 
Mar, 31, 1948 - 24. Medley with Dick Powell - I Only Have Eyes for You - With Plenty of Money and You (Dick Powell solo) - You Must Have Been a Beautiful Baby - Jeepers Creepers* - Shuffle Off to Buffalo - Thanks a Million 
April 7, 1948 - 25. How Lucky You Are* 
April 14, 1948 - 26. Love Is So Terrific* 
April 21, 1948 - 27. Hooray for Love* 

CD2
April 28, 1948
- 1.May Be Wrong* 
May 5, 1948 - 2. Blue Shadows on the Trail* 
May 19, 1948 - 3. Baby Face* /4. Nature Boy* 
May 26, 1948 - 5. You’re Too Dangerous, Cherie*  
Sept. 29, 1948 - 6. My Happiness* / 7. A Tree in the Meadow*
Oct. 20, 1948 - 8. Rambling Rose* / 9. Something to Remember You By (with Marilyn Maxwell)*
Oct. 27, 1948 - 10. Hair of Gold, Eyes of Blue* 
Dec. 8, 1948 - 11. Cuanto Le Gusta* 
Jan . 5, 1949- 12. My Darling, My Darling* 
Jan. 19, 1949 - 13. Missouri Waltz* 
Feb. 9, 1949 - 14. I’ve Got My Love to Keep Me Warm* 
Feb. 23, 1949 - 15. So in Love (with Peggy Lee) 
Mar. 2, 1949 - 16. Sunflower* 
Mar. 16, 1949 - 17. You Was (with Peggy Lee) 
April 6, 1949 - 18. Once in Love with Amy* / 19. While the Angelus Was Ringing* 
April 13, 1949 - 20. Down the Old Ox Road (with Peggy Lee and The Gonzaga Glee Club) 
April 20, 1949 - 21. Cruising Down the River* 
May 11, 1949 - 22. Riders in the Sky (with Perry Botkin, guitar and Izzy Rosenbaum string bass)* / 23. Blue Hawaii (with Peggy Lee and Alec Templeton piano)*  
May 18, 1949 - 24. Careless Hands* / 25. When Is Sometime? (with Rhonda Fleming)* 
May 25, 1949 - 26. Again (with Dorothy Kirsten)* 
June 1, 1949 - 27. Buttons and Bows* / 28. It’s Magic* / 29. So Dear To My Heart* / 30. I Got Lucky in the Rain (with Loulie Jean Norman)* / 31. Medley - Far Away Places - So Tired - Powder Your Face with Sunshine* / 32. Some Enchanted Evening - Farewell message*

* = First time on CD so far as I am aware. Whilst the remaining tracks have appeared on CDs many are no longer available.
The issue is on the Sepia label and should be available in a couple of months but in present extraordinary circumstances this might be the subject of some delays. Meantime, something to look forward to.

There is a heavy emphasis on songs that were hits from other artists.

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31/3/2020 10:50 am  #47


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Mine arrived this morning. Thank you!

 

01/4/2020 1:57 am  #48


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I found one of the CDs I bought years back that also features Philco Radio Time song selections.  The CD is called Great Moments With Bing Crosby and Friends, I wish I could post a picture but it won't work so here the next best thing to see it:
https://www.allmusic.com/album/great-moments-with-friends-mw0000050721
or for more detail:
https://www.amazon.com/Great-Moments-Bing-Crosby-Friends/dp/B00005YSLY/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=Great+Moments+With+Friends+Bing+Crosby&qid=1585706140&s=music&sr=1-1

 

01/4/2020 7:12 am  #49


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Archiefit wrote:

I found one of the CDs I bought years back that also features Philco Radio Time song selections. 

There have indeed been numbers of CDs drawn from Philco (and other) radio shows. Some idea of them, many focussing on Bing with various duettists, can be found in the discography, here

The point is that the new projected issue attempts to pick up on previously unavailable recordings of some of the songs that became hits from other stars.

 

03/7/2020 4:52 pm  #50


Re: BING magazine

Just to let you knw that the summer edition of BING magazine has been sent to the printers and will be available later this month. See http://www.bingmagazine.co.uk/bingmagazine/BING185.html

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