13/3/2018 12:52 pm  #26


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Just ordered mine for same day as publication delivery! My birthday is just two weeks after that so it'll be an early present to myself! I saw too it's 738 pages, I'll savor every one of them.

 

13/3/2018 12:57 pm  #27


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Likewise, mine is ordered. Took the 5-8 day free shipping. After all these decades, what's a couple of days?????http://cdn.boardhost.com/emoticons/confused.png


All the best,
Paul M. Mock
 

13/4/2018 10:03 am  #28


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Today marks the 6 month (or half year if you prefer) till publication date!!!!! I am so excited!

 

02/7/2018 6:44 am  #29


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I have been sent an advance galley proof and the book is a masterpiece.  Superbly written, the incredibly detailed research is bolstered by access to many personal letters from the war years which have been released by Kathryn Crosby. This book tells us far more about Bing’s tremendous contribution to the war effort than we have ever known before and this was at a time when he was making his most successful films and records. The problems with his marriage and his relationship with Joan Caulfield are considered in depth. It’s a book all of you will want and will find hard to put down. The chapter about Bing's time in France in 1944 in particular is breathtaking!

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02/7/2018 7:02 am  #30


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That is great news, Malcolm! I follow Gary Giddins on Facebook and the reviews posted there of people who have read advance copies are equally positive as your views. Thank you for sharing them on the forum!
I'm really looking forward to the book!

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02/7/2018 7:49 am  #31


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Hooray!

 

02/7/2018 11:23 am  #32


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Thank you so much for the update Mr. Macfarlane! I am so excited for Nov 13th. If you ever want to give us any other morsels of info we'd love them! Thank you again!

 

07/7/2018 5:37 pm  #33


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Just ordered my pre-release copy fro Amazon.com--what a pleasant surprise to find it available! I remember when "Pocket Full Of Dreams" arrived--I almost couldn't put it down. It's so crammed full of info, I still find myself re-reading it from time to time, or fact-checking some item that comes to mind. Great resource!
And, of course, many thanks to Gary Giddens.

 

11/7/2018 5:47 am  #34


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The publication date for BING CROSBY: SWINGING ON A STAR: THE WAR YEARS, 1940–1946, the second volume of award-winning critic and scholar Gary Giddins’s eagerly anticipated Bing Crosby biography has been moved to October 30, 2018.

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11/7/2018 8:57 am  #35


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Two weeks earlier - welcome news! :-)

 

11/7/2018 11:05 am  #36


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Now that is great news!!!!!!

 

12/7/2018 12:14 pm  #37


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This should be a wonderful book on Bing. With a decline in book sales lately we need to really get behind this so we get to see a volume 3!

 

13/7/2018 2:33 am  #38


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Well, Giddins is older than me, with 17 or 18 years in between each volume release, will even Giddins live long enough for his volume 3 to be written and released?   This is ridiculous, what's with these Bing new releases and the DECADES long interludes between releases?   Most people who are even aware of Bing now are either old or dead.  Not exactly the target consumers of Bing material in 30 or 40 years.   Maybe in heaven we can finally enjoy new Bing releases.

 

14/7/2018 6:15 pm  #39


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I agree with you Lee.

The decades between books has made me concerned. I think in the old days anyone would have bought a book on Bing, but with his original fan base dying off, I think the book's sales will be limited to be devoted fans and maybe academics. I am worried that the sale of volume 2 could hurt the chances for a volume 3.

I am really interested in the later part of Bing's career as well.

 

15/7/2018 2:16 am  #40


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Wow, all these years to write and it only covers 6 years, from '40 to '46.   I wish the original plan for this to be 2 volumes would have been stuck to, at this rate we'll be reading about '47 to '52 in 20 years then years '53 to '58 in 40 years and 60 years from now we can all enjoy years '59 to '64 and in just 80 years we can all settle down to read years '65 to '70 and then we'll all breathe a sigh of relief in 100 years when we can finally read the last part of Bing's life from '71 to '77.   Now who here will still be alive in 100 years, how about you Mr. Giddins, do you have an eternal life secret we don't know?

 

22/7/2018 12:15 pm  #41


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I keep checking Mr Giddins site as well as amazon and publisher's weekly but the date remains the same - Nov 13th. I hope the new date of Oct. 30th is correct, two weeks less to wait is fine by me!!!!

 

23/7/2018 10:28 am  #42


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Amazon has changed it - October 30th!!!!

 

23/7/2018 6:22 pm  #43


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Mine is ordered through Amazon! Can't wait.

 

30/7/2018 5:17 am  #44


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So much negative assumption about the 3rd volume!!!  Why assume that it hasn't already been written?!?
It's entirely possible that Mr. Giddins finished writing the entire book and was asked to split it into a 2nd and 3rd volume by the publisher.  Better to release a 600-page book than a 1,500-page one.  If that's the case, Volume 3 will follow within a year or two.  

 

30/7/2018 12:59 pm  #45


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Greg wrote:

So much negative assumption about the 3rd volume!!!  Why assume that it hasn't already been written?!?
It's entirely possible that Mr. Giddins finished writing the entire book and was asked to split it into a 2nd and 3rd volume by the publisher.  Better to release a 600-page book than a 1,500-page one.  If that's the case, Volume 3 will follow within a year or two.  

Really???? It has taken DECADES for us to get Volume 2. And there were some periods during that time when Bing was in resurgence. Now who knows when/if Vol. 3 will ever see the light of day?


All the best,
Paul M. Mock
 

30/7/2018 3:08 pm  #46


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I also think it's a little idealistic to think that Mr. Giddins has written the whole book and is simply splitting it into installments. The reality is that the writing of a biography as thoroughly researched as this is a massive undertaking that takes a long time. If we add to the equation the fact that the market is not as big for a book on Bing as it would be for a book on, say, Frank Sinatra or JFK, I can understand that people may wonder whether Vol. 3 will ever see the light of day. I do hope it will, and written by Mr. Giddins, who is a fantastic, knowledgeable writer and has done a marvelous job telling the Bing saga. Yet if, for whatever reason, Mr. Giddins never gets around to writing Vol. 3 (which I hope he will) someone else will need to pick up the pen and complete this outstanding project. The question is, will there be a publisher for such a book if too much time goes by?

 

30/7/2018 6:43 pm  #47


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This is only my opinion, but with regard to the possibility - or otherwise - of the eventual appearance of Vol. 3, I think there might actually be MORE of a market for a book about Bing covering his later years.

Although we might find it distasteful, the questions raised by “The Hollow Man”/“Going My Own Way”, etc., etc., do still rear their heads even now, and to have these issues dealt with by Mr Giddins in his characteristically thourough and balanced way might well find a wide enough serious readership to justify publication.

We’ll just have to wait and hope...

 

30/7/2018 6:48 pm  #48


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I don't know how much effect this would have on the delay of the upcoming War Years book, or any book that would follow, whether to Bing's passing or some other point in his life, but I do remember there being some discussion about the delay due to the fact that the Crosby family had opened the archives of Bing's basement to Gary Giddens to augment his other research. Even if Mr. Giddens had basically finished his manuscript, there would be time needed to rewrite his manuscript based on these new details, not to mention how much time it took to rummage through everything, which I have heard is quite voluminous.  

 

18/8/2018 2:34 am  #49


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From a post in another Forum from one who had read the advance copy of the book.  NOT MY WORDS!!!! 

Just finished reading the book. It is very interesting in that to me Gary made a conscious decision to downplay Sinatra as much as possible. As for Dick Haymes he is barely mentioned. I don't know how Gary can write about the war and not deal in any substantive way with the rise of Sinatra.

Perhaps Gary is off-handedly making the case that the rise of Sinatra had no effect on Crosby's career or his dominance during this period. But if so he should have presented a case for it instead of making it by glaring omission.

He has Bing and Fred Astaire being interviewed on the set of "Blue Skies" and the reporter asks Bing about Sinatra. Of course it is hard to tell from the written word how something is said but Gary has Bing replying "I'm not worried....Como is more formidable competition". The reporter then turns to Astaire and asks him how he feels about Gene Kelly. Before Astaire can respond Bing says sarcastically "Well everyone has to have their Sinatra".

Gary offers no judgments or opinions about Bing in Part 2. I guess we will have to wait for Part 3 for Gary to finally weigh in on where he stands regarding Bing but something tells me I may be disappointed at the end of this trilogy.

Gary presents a Bing Crosby blissfully unconcerned about what was going on home just as he appears to be unconcerned about Sinatra. Yes Bing was patriotic and wanted to entertain the troops. But it appears that WW2 just gave him another opportunity to stay away from home as long as possible. Yes the affair with Joan Caulfield is discussed but when Cardinal Spellman of NY and other Catholic religious leaders point out to him that the world's most famous Roman Catholic cannot even contemplate divorce he ends the affair. There are from letters Dixie's father counseling Bing to have her committed but this is also something he would never do. His mother would never have spoken to him again.

You finish this book somewhat saddened but as Gary offers no guidance you really don't know what to think.

Perhaps this will all be tied up in Part 3. I hope so but I have my doubts. It appears to me that Gary has become enamored of the James Kaplan school of noncommittal biography.

I understand there will be a CD of radio performances from the war years.

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Paul M. Mock
 

18/8/2018 9:06 am  #50


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An interesting review you have found, Paul Mock, thank you for sharing it. Three remarks I'd like to make:
- I think if Gary Giddins should write about the impact of Bing on individual colleague performers, however important, he would need 30 volumes, in stead of 3. :-) This wish of this particular reviewer simply doesn't seem to match with the concept of mr. Giddins' biography on Bing.
- The reviewer seems to be in need of mr. Giddins personal thoughts about Bing's life and/or guidance about what to think while reading the biography. Alas for him, that's is not the concept of this biography. Thought-provoking, yes. Guidance: no. As far as the 'guidance' aspect is concerned, it should be pointed out that professionally written biographies have no place in the category of 'self-help books'.
- What a comforting thought it is to know that reviews, however well-voiced,  are just the opinion of  o n e  person.

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