06/2/2012 7:46 am  #1


Bing on Mastermind

Ken Crossland tells me that this coming Friday's Mastermind, BBC2 8pm, has someone with Bing as their specialist subject. I wonder who set the questions?

 

06/2/2012 10:00 am  #2


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When thinking about what my Mastermind subject would be, I always feel that choosing Bing would have too much scope! Unless I cut it down to, say, just recordings, thus avoiding radio, film, personal & TV career...

 

06/2/2012 10:23 am  #3


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Stand by with notepad and pencil to assess our own scores!

 

06/2/2012 12:21 pm  #4


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Perhaps the contestant is a member! Perhaps it's Ken himself...

 

07/2/2012 12:13 pm  #5


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Who knows..?

"And at the end of that round, Ken, you have 18 points and NO PASSES!"

 

07/2/2012 4:21 pm  #6


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I should know all the answers but can I recall them quickly enough? Spent 10 minutes today trying to remember Bing's co-star in "Emperor Waltz" and another 10 minutes recalling The Musicaladers!

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07/2/2012 8:10 pm  #7


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Joan Fontaine at once but haven't a clue about The Musicaladers.

 

12/2/2012 8:39 pm  #8


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Many congratulations to Malcolm Sumner for his victory in the Mastermind heat on Friday evening - well done!

I would have passed on three - the originator of the name "Bingo", the name of Bing's stand-in and the church where Bing and Kathryn tied the knot.

(It is, of course, easy enough to reel off the answers sitting comfortably at home with your feet up and a beer in your hand! The pressure of the studio environment, the lights and Mr Humphreys' grilling - not to mention the infamous chair - make Malcolm's achievement all the more impressive.)

It's a pity that the programme format no longer allows for the contestants to say a few words about their chosen subject before the general knowledge round. It would have been a great opportunity to quote a few statistics - on prime-time television - about Bing's extraordinary career.

Anyway, well done again, Malcolm, and the very best of luck in the semi-finals.

 

12/2/2012 11:06 pm  #9


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A few words of explanation to all those outside the U.K.

'Mastermind' is a long running TV show in the UK in which the contestants undergo two minutes of grilling on their chosen specialist subject and two and a half minutes on general topics. It is quite erudite and the general section is very wide ranging.

Each show has four contestants, the winner going through to the next round. I believe I am correct in stating that in the second round contestants cannot choose the same topic as for the first, but may return to it if they get to the finals.

A candidate this week, as mentioned by Jeremy, was Malcolm Sumner. He scored 16 in his specialist round on Bing Crosby.  This is a high score relative to usual performances on the show.

The questions encompassed Bing's life and career - and we all know what a long and varied career Bing had. Whilst a few of the questions would have been easy for any Bing fan, there were several that would have caused much head scratching and three or four were really challenging.

Malcolm paused once for thought - a question relating to Leo Lynn - and passed on one only - the title recorded for Decca with  'Just A Wearying for You' - Answer - 'I Love You Truly'. (I personally thought this was a nasty one as there were four titles recorded in that session, though I suppose 'Just A Wearying for You' and 'I Love You Truly' just about make a legitimate pair as they were issued as sides A and B on the original 78).

Malcolm went on to final score of 28 and the other contestants only managed 25, 19 and 17.

So hearty congratulations to him - and an equally hearty welcome, Malcolm, to this board.

Malcolm, I hope we see something from you in the future.

Possibly after a more few repetitions of the question and answer session I'll post them here.  My typing rates a fraction of the quick-fire questions, some of which are quite lengthy.

 

15/2/2012 7:17 am  #10


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Thank-you very much to Jeremy and Richard for their kind comments regarding my appearance in the BBC’s ‘Mastermind’ quiz (10 / 2 / 12). The broadcast is still available to watch online on the BBC i-player but only until the next episodes are aired on Friday evening (17th Feb) at 8 o’clock!

As requested, I have posted (in the ‘Members Introductions’ sub-forum) a bit of an intro to my lifetime interest in Bing. Regarding the quiz – I was a reluctant contestant on ‘Mastermind’ but when a friend had a go last series and did quite well, I got nagged by my family to send in an online application. It seemed like one way of using the store of pointless ‘general’ information that some of us tend to accumulate over the years, but which specialist subjects to choose? You have to submit four (in case you make it through all three rounds of the contest) with reasons for your choice and evidence of knowledge in the form of a ‘reading list’. The subjects you choose (not too obscure or too broad) also presumably play a part on whether you get selected to audition.

As a more worthwhile ‘challenge’, I originally intended to choose subjects where I had an interest but only limited knowledge. However, with pressure on for the first round, I had to make a quick choice so opted for a subject where I was semi-confident. Wise decision, as the recording took place last July just days after the end of school term! Had ordered three ‘set texts’ (biographies by Charles Thompson, Michael Freedland and Richard Grudens - no time to tackle the exhaustive and masterful 'early life' by Gary Giddins!) With roughly three days to prepare, I had to start ‘predicting’ likely topics. Bing starred in over 60 full-length films, usually playing interchangeable versions of himself with names like Jeff or Jim, so decided I would (and could!) only memorise his roles in the more famous films or the ‘character’ parts that he played ... which paid off with the question on Bing’s character name in the ‘Stagecoach’ remake. Had watched that film decades before so no way I would have remembered otherwise.

On the day of filming, the questions luckily fell just right. As Richard and Jeremy have mentioned, roughly half of the 17 Crosby questions I got through in my two minutes would have been straightforward for any Bing fan (or for me a week earlier!) For the other half, I relied on my ‘cramming’. Three of the questions (the name of Bing’s boyhood neighbour, the church where he married Kathryn and the Leo Lynn question) I’d filed away under 'they’ll-never-ask-that-but-just-in-case'. ‘Firsts and lasts’ also paid off with a question on Bing’s final album. I’d registered the fact that he made the first ever recordings on Jack Kapp’s new Decca label but had  omitted to remember the names of the recordings in question (basically because I’d never heard of either song!)

Amazing (or unsurprising) how quickly you ‘lose’ a lot of that hastily crammed knowledge when the recording is over – all the hotels / cafes / cinemas in Spokane and California where Bing made his early appearances! But compliments to the question-setter on a really broad and interesting variety of questions, many of which (as Richard says) were quite lengthy and included interesting ‘nuggets’ for the audience. At least the lengthy questions gave me a little bit of thinking time!

On the afternoon of the recording (which now takes place in the BBC’s brand-new Manchester studios – a bit of a trek for us ‘southerners’!) the audience were entertained amidst the checking of camera angles by Ted Robbins, a well-known ‘warm-up man’ on many TV shows. Amidst the to-and-fro with the quizmaster John Humphries, he used the gag about the two of them having a dressing-room next to a troupe of female dancers. Ted recalled telling John about finding a hole in the dressing-room wall, to which John’s apparent reply was ‘Let them look’! I’m sure that I heard Bing and Bob Hope use a similar routine on one of the radio shows – proof that the ‘banter’ as well as the music is timeless. Many of today’s radio presenters with their on-air badinage owe a massive debt to Crosby’s legacy – I know that he mixed the spontaneous with the scripted but even today the good-natured banter between Bing and his fellow-stars is as fresh as the day it was recorded.

Talking of ‘banter’, I was initially relieved that contestants are no longer required to have a brief ‘chat’ with John Humphries before the commencement of the General Knowledge round, but in retrospect it would have been a nice way of putting one’s specialist choice into context. Being as my fellow-contestants chose an eclectic range of subjects (including the official executioner Albert Pierrepoint!) these insights definitely used to add an extra facet to the programme.

The next ‘round’ of Mastermind was recorded last September (transmission date still unknown). One is not allowed to return to earlier subjects (or even similar ones) so my next specialist round was on the Victorian Prime Minister Disraeli! Another hero (and another great ‘showman’) but hard to think of a greater contrast! Suffice it to say that as the competition gets tougher,  nerves and concentration play as great a part as knowledge, so grateful that some of Bing’s relaxed style was with me on the July recording at least!

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15/2/2012 7:39 am  #11


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Fascinating Malcolm! Many thanks for all the background information which, if I may, I'll use in the next edition of BING magazine due out next month. If you would like a complimentary copy of the magazine, please respond here or email me at macwilmslo@aol.com

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15/2/2012 8:47 am  #12


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Thanks very much  – yes, that’s absolutely fine, though I won’t hold you to this in the likely event of more interesting material becoming available! Will send you contact details separately.

Coming from someone whose ‘Day By Day’ guide must be the ultimate in showbiz scholarship, your comments are much appreciated. Once again, the material assembled on this site (and the vigilance / dedication of its contributors) is surely the envy of museum curators and university archivists everywhere ...  ‘a veritable cornucopia of Crosby curiosities’ as the great man himself might have put it!

 

15/2/2012 4:18 pm  #13


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I am sending Malcolm a copy of BING magazine.

The questions he was asked by John Humphrys are shown below and see if you can answer them instantly.

1. Which song first performed by Bing Crosby in the film Holiday Inn is still one of the biggest selling records of all time?
2. Crosby played Father Chuck O’Malley in two films. Going My Way is the first. What’s the title of the sequel?
3. Who was the third member of Paul Whiteman’s Rhythm Boys alongside Al Rinker and Crosby? He co-wrote “Mississippi Mud" for the new threesome.
4. When Crosby got married, it prompted a number of headlines, such as “20th Century Fox star marries obscure crooner. Whom did he marry?
5. Which song performed by Crosby in The Big Broadcast became his theme song and was an instant best-seller?
6. Which of his school friends is credited with first calling him “Bingo" from a character in a newspaper comic feature? It was later shortened to Bing.
7. What starring role did he play in the ‘66 remake of John Wayne’s Stagecoach directed by Gordon Douglas?
8. In the late 1940s, Crosby bought a share in which Major League baseball team that didn’t win the World Series until 1960?
9. In 1931, he recruited a fellow former pupil of Gonzaga High School as his chauffeur and movie stand-in. Who was he?
10. Crosby was nominated for an Oscar for his role as an alcoholic singer and actor in which film? It was his co-star Grace Kelly who actually won one.
11. What’s the name of the church in Las Vegas where Crosby finally married Kathryn Grant in 1957 after the wedding had been called off several times?
12. What’s the title of the Road film originally intended to be called The Road to Mandalay in which he starred with Bob Hope and Dorothy Lamour?
13. When Crosby became the first signing for the new Decca record label, he  recorded “Just A-Wearyin’ for You" and which other track?
14. Which guitarist did he first meet when they both played with the Paul Whiteman Band? Crosby toured with him until the guitarist’s death in 1933 after a routine operation to have his tonsils removed.
15. What condition did Crosby suffer from which made him unfit for service in the Second World War?
16. What was the title of his last album which included a tune for each part of the year including “April Showers"  and “June in January" ?
17. In which 1935 film co-starring W. C. Fields did Crosby have to don side-burns, a moustache - and a girdle because he’d put on weight?

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15/2/2012 5:24 pm  #14


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I had never heard of that program before.  It sounds like part of the entertainment might be when a supposed know-it-all is unmasked as a fraud.  Obviously, our new friend, MS, really knew his subject exceptionally well!  What a delight to learn of another dedicated Crosby fan. As a Yank, once again I am reminded of just how essential the British community of Bing's fans has been in keeping his legacy alive over all these years.

 

30/3/2012 10:35 pm  #15


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Malcolm Sumner, the BBC 'Mastermind' contestant who won through on the first round with questions on Bing Crosby, has unfortunately not managed to get through the second round. He was answering questions on the 19th Century British politician and Prime Minister Benjamin Disraeli.

It was a very close thing though. There were five participants in the round at the end of which only three points separated them. The lowest score was 22, with Malcolm on 23 and the top score at 25, shared by two who had to have a run off.

Commiserations to Malcolm, who will not now have the opportunity of returning to the subject of Bing in the next round.

Naturally it was a strong field as all had come through the earlier round.

 

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