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Ian Kerstein wrote:
Aaron, how could we not count this as a favourite! It's a terrific picture by your father - my goodness me, there's real talent there!!! Imagine if your jokey friend knew a little more, he could have even more joshingly suggested "Pin the Toupée on Bing" - or was he being kind (unlike me)?
Did your father at the time know that Sinatra painted?
I also have a copy of "The Complete Crosby", published as a follow up edition to Charles Thompson's "Bing" (1976) to cover his death.
I've asked around Bingland but to no avail - do you happen to know what became of Charles Thompson?
Since his 1981 biography: "Bob Hope: Portrait of a Superstar", he seems to have disappeared without trace. The Lord Lucan of Crosbyana.
I can't remember if Dad knew that Sinatra painted or not back then. Not sure if he still would know or remember now. Dad is a compulsive. I'm sure he would have had a look through my copy of the book Nancy wrote on her father, which of course has some of Frank's paintings in.
I think Dad would have signed it F.Sinatra as a joke on the Crosby/Sinatra rivalry. Dad didn't like the drawing. He thought it didn't quite capture Bing. Therefore, it was a bad picture so therefore sign Sinatra's name as he would have deliberately set out to do a bad picture of Bing.
I do have another photo of the picture. Dad added the signature and the pipe smoke as an after thought.
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Blonde56 wrote:
Wow! When I started this post I had no idea how many would respond and how interesting it would become. I love the choices and the great stories.
Welcome Back Carmela! We missed you!
Indeed a very interesting thread.
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Pantelis, Thank you! I am having a rough few years but hanging in there. I miss all of you, I must try to be at next meeting. Aaron, So sad you don't have that drawing but at least you have photo of it.
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Blonde56 wrote:
Pantelis, Thank you! I am having a rough few years but hanging in there. I miss all of you, I must try to be at next meeting. Aaron, So sad you don't have that drawing but at least you have photo of it.
Yes, I'll second that, Pantelis. Glad you're now back among us, Carmela, We've missed you at the meetings and on here. I hope your health continues to improve.
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Aaron Tickner wrote:
Ian Kerstein wrote:
Aaron, how could we not count this as a favourite! It's a terrific picture by your father - my goodness me, there's real talent there!!! Imagine if your jokey friend knew a little more, he could have even more joshingly suggested "Pin the Toupée on Bing" - or was he being kind (unlike me)?
Did your father at the time know that Sinatra painted?
I also have a copy of "The Complete Crosby", published as a follow up edition to Charles Thompson's "Bing" (1976) to cover his death.
I've asked around Bingland but to no avail - do you happen to know what became of Charles Thompson?
Since his 1981 biography: "Bob Hope: Portrait of a Superstar", he seems to have disappeared without trace. The Lord Lucan of Crosbyana.
I can't remember if Dad knew that Sinatra painted or not back then. Not sure if he still would know or remember now. Dad is a compulsive. I'm sure he would have had a look through my copy of the book Nancy wrote on her father, which of course has some of Frank's paintings in.
I think Dad would have signed it F.Sinatra as a joke on the Crosby/Sinatra rivalry. Dad didn't like the drawing. He thought it didn't quite capture Bing. Therefore, it was a bad picture so therefore sign Sinatra's name as he would have deliberately set out to do a bad picture of Bing.
I do have another photo of the picture. Dad added the signature and the pipe smoke as an after thought.
I like you father's humour! Unlike him, I also like his picture. Perfect style for the game you were playing!
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Pantelis and Ian Thanks! The health issues I had the past many years but I have been bombarded with stuff and fell behind on bills. I am currently trying to catch up.
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Pleasure, Carmela.
I'm so sorry to hear of all this and hope you can soon catch up with everything.
Once again, nice to see you back on the forum - and with a great, original subject.
Do have another favoured picture of Bing?
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Thanks Ian! Another favorite photo of Bing is on the cover of Kathryn's book, "My Life with Bing". Very handsome photo of Bing! And there is another where he is young and wearing a sweater. I will try and post them. Sometimes I can't post things here.
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I know the one - being lucky enough to have having been bought the book by my late wife. That was a very happy Christmas day! Yes, it's a great early colour photograph - Bing's even holding his pipe to his mouth.
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My no1 favorite photo of Bing is his first one with Kathryn on the set of White Christmas, it can be seen in My Life with Bing page 1 (after the prologue in chatper 1953)
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I must look at that again, as I must confess I had forgotten it was their first photograph together.
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Plus, I'm trying to recall how to post images on here. I only performed this just a month ago on this very thread. I'm trying to upload a picture to add to a message I've posted on the current chat of "
What Bing Crosby movies have you never seen?" with regard to "Say One For Me".
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Ian, I was able to post photo when I started post but after that I couldn't. Lucky I figure at a few things at this age. I think I know which photo Pantelis is talking about. Bing and Kathryn always radiated such warmth in photos. Especially that one. I always loved how Kathryn looked at Bing with such love and admiration. When they did the Joe Franklin Show she looks at him the way I described. Love that interview, one of the best. I remember going to Joe's restaurant in Manhattan and watching it on a tv( I had seen it already because a fan gave me a copy. ). Joe came over and greeted me. He remembered me from one of Kathryn's events in the city. Very nice man, started to get a little senile a few years after that. I loved his show. Nothing like it now.
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Yes, I'm having difficulty posting photographs on here, now.
I'll still see if I am able.
Wow! You met an American broadcasting legend who had his own show longer than Carson!
Would you have met Joe Franklin around 1976, Carmela?
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No. I met him at a Bing Event that I was at with Kathryn. I believe it was at Sardys Restaurant back in the early 2000's.
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Oh how wonderful, Carmela.
So you met Kathryn twice?
Please don't tell Pantelis this.
I want to keep him from grinding his teeth away.
I knew you met her once - was the first time at the Crosby Hofstra Symposium?
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I met Kathryn at Hofstra and I was with her at a few Crosby Brooklyn and New York events after that. She picked me to accompany her. I ate with her, saw movies with her and went to the ladies room with her. I only regret I could not go to her home when I was invited. If only I could turn back time! However, there was an evil fan around back then who got a little envious and ruined any future meetings with Kathryn. I do not think she is alive anymore but she was evil.
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Oh dear,
You were extremely lucky to have experience such proximity with this great lady, I am so fond of Kathryn, she was one of the most charming persons I can think of. It is so nice to hear how many people experienced her warmth. Carmela has shared with me some very nice pictures of her meetings with Kathryn, they both look wonderful!
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Awww … I'm so pleased Carmela has done this with you, Pantelis.
I know meeting her would have been a dream come true for you.
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This site does not make it easier to upload a picture. Here is another favorite of mine:
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That's a terrific one, David.
Do you know anything about it?
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Thanks for the compliment Pantelis! I miss those times with Kathryn. We had a lot of laughs together. Time goes by too fast for me. Nice Photo David! Looks like the jacket Greg has that was Bing's. Ian, there are so many great photos of Bing, as a woman, I tend to favor his young and handsome photos but there are others that are good too even though he is older in them. I guess I am proof that we ladies are just as visual as men when it comes to the opposite sex. I am not dead yet! Lol! Pantelis, what is your favorite photo of Kathryn without Bing? I think mine would be one of her from the Sinbad movie where she has on that lovely two piece Princess outfit.
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It's true, Carmela that Bing remained photogenic throughout his life. I think more than anything else, it's his twinkling, gentle humour which seems to come across in so many of his photographs.
Kathryn also photographed well, particularly up to the beginning of the 1980's.
I'm not familiar with the photograph you have in mind, Carmela but I am familiar with the Sinbad film, where she and co-star Kerwin Mathews made a most attractive and convincing couple.
We certainly need Pantelis' expertise, here.
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