20/2/2020 2:58 pm  #1


Chesterfield Show Question 1/9/52

Bing's Chesterfield show of 1/9/52 was a a broadcast using snippets from other shows. I fellow Bing fan says it is because of Dixie Lee's illness but I am not too sure.

Does anyone know why they did this and what was the reasoning Bing did not appear on the show that week?

Thanks Crosby sleuths!

 

20/2/2020 6:32 pm  #2


Re: Chesterfield Show Question 1/9/52

Lobosco,
Would Malcolm’s book help?
I expect you mean 1st. September. (As we go day, month, year)

 

20/2/2020 7:04 pm  #3


Re: Chesterfield Show Question 1/9/52

I'm sure that David is referring to the broadcast of 9 January 1952 which was indeed artificially created out of taped pieces from earlier shows. The timeline from Malcolm's "Day By Day" suggests that Dixie's cancer was not diagnosed until later in the year. Bing himself had kidney stone problems and had been in hospital for a few days early in January nut there is no evidence that this had a great impact on his usual acitivities as shows were still being taped around this time. Personally I have long held the theory that it was an exercise to show to themselves that it could be done.
Go to here  http://www.bingmagazine.co.uk/bingmagazine/chesterfieldthird_season.htm
and here  http://www.bingmagazine.co.uk/bingmagazine/Crosby2dChesterfield.html

and scroll down to 9 January 1952 on each case. 

Also Day By Day  here http://www.bingmagazine.co.uk/bingmagazine/Chapter_8.htm#Year_1952

 

20/2/2020 8:36 pm  #4


Re: Chesterfield Show Question 1/9/52

Richard Baker wrote:

I'm sure that David is referring to the broadcast of 9 January 1952 which was indeed artificially created out of taped pieces from earlier shows. The timeline from Malcolm's "Day By Day" suggests that Dixie's cancer was not diagnosed until later in the year. Bing himself had kidney stone problems and had been in hospital for a few days early in January nut there is no evidence that this had a great impact on his usual acitivities as shows were still being taped around this time. Personally I have long held the theory that it was an exercise to show to themselves that it could be done.
Go to here  http://www.bingmagazine.co.uk/bingmagazine/chesterfieldthird_season.htm
and here  http://www.bingmagazine.co.uk/bingmagazine/Crosby2dChesterfield.html

and scroll down to 9 January 1952 on each case. 

Also Day By Day  here http://www.bingmagazine.co.uk/bingmagazine/Chapter_8.htm#Year_1952

Thanks! The Bing fan that thought Dixe was ill has a ticket to the show but he claimed it was cancelled so maybe it was because of Bing's kidney stones. Poor Bing. He had the kidney stone issues almost all his life!
 

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23/2/2020 2:46 am  #5


Re: Chesterfield Show Question 1/9/52

I know where this question stems from as I am in that very same group.


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Yesterday 7:33 pm  #6


Re: Chesterfield Show Question 1/9/52

The Crosby radio shows by this time were prerecorded and assembled from a number of recordings.  I do not have the exact reason for the 9 Jan 1952 being so disjointed, but there are two main reasons.  First, Jack Mullin had left the job of editing the show in the summer of 1951 to work on the video recorder.  The replacements were still trying to learn his craft.  Secondly, Bing had a lot on his plate during this period between his family and his engagements.  January also was a bad month to bring people together to do a show after the busy Christmas season.  When Bing and the announcer were not together, we recorded them separately and put the two conversations together.  This task was difficult, and sometimes Bing was not available.

Had Jack Mullin been doing the editing one would probably not noticed the problems.  The shows before this one were edited versions of an earlier recorded audience show.  These were not too difficult to do, but to assemble a show from many old ones is a real art.  The new editors did not make the grade.  As for Dixie being the reason, it is hard to say, but Bing was concerned about her.

For more on the radio show see:  https://ethw.org/First-Hand:The_Evolution_of_the_Bing_Crosby_Radio_Show

Bob Phillips

 

Yesterday 11:58 pm  #7


Re: Chesterfield Show Question 1/9/52

I used to think all Bing's audience shows were done live too.  Till I recognized a too often repeated audience reaction.   The first time I heard it I believe it was a genuine audience reaction.   It came right after Bing says that next week's guest will be Fred Astaire, and you hear the audience say, "Ooooohh."    That sounded real.  But then I started hearing it in way too many shows afterward, when I heard it after Bing says next week Gary will be his guest and the audience ooohhhs  I knew it was fake.  That same oooohhh effect was used many times after that Fred announcement whenever Bing announced the next week's guest.   I was waiting just once to hear the audience oooohhhh when Bing says we don't know who next week's guest is.   Aside from some of the same songs popping up too often you couldn't really tell it was pieced together.   And back in those days with physical tape cutting and splicing editing wasn't near as easy as it is today with digital edits.   I used to edit with tape and it was a painstaking exacting ordeal.  But you did feel a real sense of happy accomplishment when it sounded perfect..

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