Others of Note » Bob Crosby. » Yesterday 2:51 am

Alan
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According to both "The Jazz Discography Online" and Brian Rust's "The American Dance Band Discography 1917-1942", Doris Day's first recording session with Les Brown was on Nov. 29, 1940 for Okeh Records. She recorded: "(I Ain't Hep To That Step But I'll) Dig It", "Let's Be Buddies", "While The Music Plays On",
"Three At A Table For Two. As David points out, there are no recordings of Day with the Bob Crosby orchestra (not even radio airchecks, it seems). Interestingly, Vaughan Monroe did play trumpet-including on some of his band's first recordings for Bluebird. 

Recording » Favorite Post-1974 Bing Album? » 22/8/2025 1:58 am

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I also put "Feels Good..." as my #1 post-1974 album pick. Lke Anton, "Seasons" is #2 for me. Both are well programmed albums and I especially like Alan Cohen's orchestrations on "Feels Good...". There are excellent moments in all of Bing's 1974-77 recordings. What a "vocal renaissance" he had during this period! 

Recording » Underrated Bing Crosby » 30/4/2025 3:51 pm

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Thanks, Jeremy. I had forgotten that "The Natural Thing..." was from Trotter's first studio session with Bing. It looks like Trotter's archive which includes annotated musical scores is at the American Heritage Center at the University of Wyoming: https://archiveswest.orbiscascade.org/ark:80444/xv293113?q=John%20Scott%20Trotter
It would fascinating to see what's there and to see who he "farmed" out some of the arranging load to. John Cascales who played tenor sax on the early Kraft shows and a number of Bing Decca recordings (including "Bob White" and "Don't Be That Way") became better known as arranger/composer Johnny Richards. I wonder if some of the more "modern" sounding arrangements used on radio by Bing with Trotter's orchestra were by Richards (1948's "Love Is So Terrific" being a case in point). I know that Trotter used Billy May at times as well an orchestrator for Bing ("On The Atcheson, Topeka and the Santa Fe"). 

Recording » Underrated Bing Crosby » 30/4/2025 2:18 am

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Thank you, Jeremy, for your kind words and your great musician's ears, as well. Another favourite of mine (and perhaps another under-rated Bing record) is "It's The Natural Thing To Do" from 1937.
John Scott Trotter drew on a vast vocabulary as an arranger, especially in the early part of his association with Bing and this record an excellent example.
What caught my ear at first is Trotter's use of a "reed choir" made up of flutes and clarinets at the beginning the end of this recording. Trotter has the flutes and clarinets playing rapid triplet figures (that divide the basic beat into three) that resemble those uses by Claude Debussy in the 2nd section of "La Mer". This shouldn't be too surprising as many jazz and pop arrangers of the period very very influenced by the French impressionist composers (Debussy, Ravel) and some of these ideas would inevitably appear in their arrangements for performers like Bing. 
For instance, listen for the flute/clarinet triplets around the 2'53" mark on Bing's recording:
https://youtu.be/Rh2DNfL-nzs?si=NczaeSw9B7PzFHqN
with the 10'51" mark on this recording of "La Mer". 
Debussy: La Mer 10’51”https://youtu.be/KUFpcPEcwTo
To provide real contrast on "It's The Natural Thing...", Trotter has the band swing hard (with the flute and clarinet players back on saxophones) with drummer Spike Jones driving the band with his hi-hats cymbals (much like Basie's drummer Jo Jones did at the time. Spike may have been comedian later on but he sure could swing!) leading to a cornet solo by the Bix-inspired Andy Secrest.  Lots of artistry in what would a have been another day in the recording studio for Bing and John Scott! 

Recording » Underrated Bing Crosby » 26/4/2025 5:29 pm

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Glad that you enjoyed my choices. Like many others on this forum, "That Ol' Spring Fever" is another of my under-rated favourites and it's certainly one of Bing's best 1950s recordings. Part of my enthusiasm for 
"'Sposin'" and "Watermelon Weather" is due to the great arrangements on these recordings (by Roy Bargy and Vic Schoen, respectively). The combination of trombone quartet and rhythm section behind Bing and Peggy on "Watermelon Weather" is unusual and very effective. Bargy makes full use of the Whiteman orchestra's instrumental strength on "'Sposin'" and creates a wonderful setting for the young Bing. 
Sonny Burke's arrangement on "Marrying For Love" is also full of interesting textures especially the use of the low-register clarinets behind the vocal (similar to what Paul Weston and Axel Stordahl did for Tommy Dorsey's singers) and the use of the clarinet-led reed section towards the end of "Marrying..." is also a nice moment reflecting the prevasive Glenn Miller influence as well as the kind of reed section writing Burke did for Artie Shaw and Bob Crosby.

Recording » Underrated Bing Crosby » 26/4/2025 1:10 am

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"Marrying For Love" is a nice track. A couple of under-rated Bing tracks that I like are from 2 very different periods in his career: " 'Sposin' " (1929 with Paul Whiteman) and "Watermelon Weather" (with Peggy Lee, 1952)

Member Introductions » Welcome Alan! » 13/4/2025 10:49 pm

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Many thanks for your greetings, Graham. As a member of the ICC since 1998, I've enjoyed your many articles in "Bing" magazine over the years! This isn't a Bing-related question but did you hear Artie Shaw when he toured Australia in 1954. That was the last public playing he did.

Recording » Kraft Music Hall Vol.2 Loch Lomond » 08/4/2025 2:09 am

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Yes-there's the version that started "Loch Lomond" swinging. Maxine Sullivan and Claude Thornhill
https://youtu.be/lYF-d0IqPoU?si=XbQnm_V0kechoh4U
and the Benny Goodman/Martha Tilton follow up:
https://youtu.be/isplxfEKhSw?si=3ZqRbOlrCL5fHr_t
and Bing's co-performer from "Rhythm on the River", Wingy Manone:
https://youtu.be/kQyhiJBIC9s?si=5ZtGd7CP86t0Dj5m

Recording » Why was Monday wash day? » 31/3/2025 1:09 am

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You've been listening to "From Monday On" I'd imagine. A great tune with great lyrics by Bing. Until I heard the Rhythm Boys version, I had no idea that the verse had lyrics as well. In the 3 Paul Whiteman recordings, the verse is played as a violin section "soli". We played this arrangement twice on CBC Radio in Vancouver back in 1995-96. The parts for "From Monday On" housed at the Whiteman Collection at Williams College (Mass.) barely resembled the famous Whiteman recordings. I had the pleasant task of transcribing the arrangement from the recorded sources. Since we didn't have a vocal group on our CBC broadcast, I orchestrated the vocal intro for the violin section. 
Matty Malneck's arrangement on this song is one of his best (along with "Mary").

Member Introductions » Welcome Alan! » 23/3/2025 10:10 pm

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Many thanks, David and Carmela. I was a member at one point and somehow let me membership lapse. 
Special thanks to David for keeping this valuable site going!

Others of Note » Johnny Mercer "Jeepers Creepers" and a few questions » 23/3/2025 10:07 pm

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Hi Jim, I read with interest your query about a Johnny Mercer discography. 
The "Jazz Discography Online" (which is a subscriber supported service) does have a relatively complete Mercer discgraphy encompassing his more jazz-based work. I noticed that the Glendale recording you mention only lists the 1983 release date and no personnel details. Your guess about the early-mid 1960s date for the Glendale recordings does make sense. Please contact me privately if you would like more information.

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