Recording » The Chronological Bing Crosby Complete Online Set » 29/4/2026 5:30 pm

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Stepo, that's interesting that Bing's 1928 version of Ol' Man River would have reached number one had the charts existed. Am I correct in thinking that up to about 1950, the format in which music was mainly purchased was sheet music? 

Yes, Robeson was very popular over in the UK. Theatre runs in plays, films and concert appearances. Once when managing a music shop, a senior customer told me how transfixed he was on seeing Robeson at an outdoor concert over here in the 1950's. Like a singing Mount Rushmore. 

Pantelis, I must look out my copy of a Joe Bushkin LP I have which contains a couple of 1977 Norway recorded tracks from Bing. I'll be interested to see if Ol' Man River is one of them, as I'm blowed if I can remember!

 

International Club Crosby » ICC May Online Meeting » 27/4/2026 10:42 pm

It would be so lovely to have you and your Bing enthusiasms to transatlantically joins us on that day., Carmela.
I'd even wear my "Hef" smoking jacket for you!

Film » White Christmas & High Society preserved by the Library of Congress » 27/4/2026 8:37 pm

I must look into Primary Wave because I have read of its name before and yet am uncertain as to what it is. Or if I did know, I've forgotten. I just hope I won't be too ashamed on finding out. They sound extremely Bing worthy!

I so agree, Pantelis about the music being the best in "Road to Morocco". Even though I've yet to see 'Singapore or 'Utopia, I'm familiar with their songs. Do you think 'Rio could have been the last honest to goodness "Road" film? I appreciate 'Bail had some super moments and I still enjoy it (and its lovely colour) to this day but I do think some of the original fire was dimming by that time. "Road to Hong Kong" seemed a pale photocopy compared to the best of the series - and I know we've both discussed this in the past but due to Hope and Melvyn Frank and the general passage of time, I am so relieved that "Road to the Fountain of Youth" never made it to celluloid. Of course, I  remain so sad over the reason for this. If some of us remain questioning over Joan Collins in 'Hong Kong, I don't dare guess to what our reaction would be of the boys chasing the likes of Farrah Fawcett. 

High Society is such a classic, isn't it? It has so many elements and it all fuses together so seamlessly. A real "champagne" musical as I'm certain "Gigi" must be (I've yet to see it) and "My Fair Lady" (possibly the greatest of all?). It only just made it before the fall of the studio system and Bing and Frank's unseating by Elvis and Co. 

Yes, "Holiday Inn" over the admittedly lovely, glossy looking "White Christmas" wins every time!
What's the deal over "White Christmas" being partially owned by Bing's estate? 
I didn't realise this. 

 

Recording » The Chronological Bing Crosby Complete Online Set » 26/4/2026 9:06 pm

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Thank you, Stepo. That was most enlightening as I had never knowingly heard either the 1941 Victor Young or the 1945 Camarata orchestra versions before. I found the latter to be mellower and more consistent but Victor Young's a little less so. The strict melody line with which I'm familiar on Bing's vocals seemed to be a little less consistent with Bing seemingly beginning line openings on a slightly higher key and then dropping to another. My favourite of the three you mentioned was Buddy Cole's, which I had heard before. I think it's because I associate this song with Bing as an uptempo one. The first version I ever heard was indeed the 1928 version on a Crosby double cassette tape compilation I borrowed from my  local library when aged fourteen. It was an RCA 1982 compilation entitled "Bing Crosby Forever (30 Evergreens)" and that one set really opened my eyes to Bing's versatility, as it contained more of his late 1920's early solos, most of the "Bing With a Beat" album and "Fancy Meeting You Here". No wonder I copied both cassette tapes!

Film » White Christmas & High Society preserved by the Library of Congress » 26/4/2026 12:55 am

I think all these titles are sensible choices from Bing's filmography. 
I am assuming "King of Jazz" to be a musical treasure trove but other than a couple of brief excepts, I have yet to view it. "Road to Morocco" is of the Road films I have so far seen, easily my favourite. 
"High Society" is both my favourite Bing film and I sneakily suspect, should the day come when I finally have seen all of his films, will remain so. 

It's wonderful that the US Library of Congress undertakes this most worthy exercise. 
I know I am being naughty, here - but I'm just hoping the literal side of their preservation is far sounder than Universal's storage of all those great master recordings. Losses of course in that 2008 fire, included some originals of our man's great works. 

Recording » The Chronological Bing Crosby Complete Online Set » 26/4/2026 12:29 am

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No apology necessary, Stepo. 
Thank you. 
There's two later recorded versions of "Ol' Man River"?
Do you know where from?
Did Bing record one with Buddy Cole - or would that be post 1950, which would be after The Chronological Crosby period?  I only know elsewhere of a telly performance of this song by Bing and of course a much later one recorded at The London Palladium. 
I'd love to get my hands on a full set of the "Chronological" CDs.


 

Recording » The Chronological Bing Crosby Complete Online Set » 25/4/2026 4:38 pm

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That's quite a major one, Stepo.
Is this missing off the online files or the CDs themselves? 

Radio » Basil Rathbone on radio with Bing » 26/3/2026 8:42 pm

Thank you for the reminder, Carmela and the information, Malcolm on Basil Rathbone's radio appearances with Bing. Never having heard any, I had completely forgotten about these, having read somewhere about them ages ago (possibly four and a half decades ago in Charles Thompson's authorised biography of Bing) . I thought Bing and Basil (sounds like a double act in itself) worked so well together in one of my favourite Bing films, "Rhythm on the River". Rathbone always played a convincing villain and yet was so gloriously suited to his then starring role in the Sherlock Holmes films. Did he adopt  a villainous persona in his on air exchanges/sketches with Bing or were they more gentle and learned performances? And as with another famous non-singer, Humphrey Bogart in one of his radio appearances with Bing, was he persuaded to sing at all? 


By the way - where did Bing's long untraceable authorised author Mr Thompson disappear to? - I'd love to know. 

Books » Bob Hope Biography by Richard Zoglin » 23/3/2026 11:56 pm

David Lobosco wrote:

I feel that Bing and Bob's personality were just too different to be close friends. They respected each other, but like people posted before they did not hang out every Sunday. A lot of books, especially after Bing and Bob both died took things said out of context to sell books. 

I am inclined to agree to an ever greater extent, David that as men, much separated them to be actual friends. I believe in admiring public figures, we sometimes want to believe that certain aspects of their public selves must form a strong part of them. From the electronic age onwards, public personalities have been able more and more as technology has refined to present a version, seemingly of their off stage selves, which in turn to degrees, often consists as part of their public performance. 

As Sinatra often said, "Now I don't care where you go, that's the dullest speech anyone ever made". 

Recording » Bing Crosby - The Brunswick Years » 22/3/2026 9:27 pm

David. This is terrific on many levels. First of all, you have a natural broadcasting voice, wonderful intonation and diction. Also your faultless choice of recordings is to be commended. Many of them signature ones and rightfully featured. Plus your background information on them and Bing's life at the time was pitch perfect. 
Once able, I will hurry back to listen to your first programme. Congratulations. 

Recording » Bing and Fred's Album "A Couple of Song and Dance Men" » 22/3/2026 9:15 pm

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Did the whole family perform "Sing" on the 1976 Palladium album or am I becoming agedly confused with the Christmas television special where Bing sang this with Fred and a year before on British telly with Vera Lynn? Someone please come to my memory rescue! 

Ooooooh, yes please, another Bing and Rosie album would have been a wonderful tie-in for their continued world tour in 1978. A small group, swinging jazz based one with Joe Bushkin would have been wonderful. Possibly as a tribute to Fred from both of them? Fred did a hugely effective, mid-career small group jazz album with Oscar Peterson. There would certainly have been enough great songs to go at, there. Bing still sounded great in the studio with a small group, as witnessed on the final album track he was to record in America in early 1977, "Don't Get Around Anymore" with a quartet led by saxophonist Scott Hamilton.

An album with wife Kathryn would have been most interesting. She did a very sweet job in duetting live on "My Cup Runneth Over" with Bing on the Palladium album. A potential version of "True Love" would have been especially charming. 

International Club Crosby » BING magazine » 27/1/2026 10:42 pm

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Graham Pascoe wrote:

Ian, you are absolutely right to praise Malcolm for his devotion to BING magazine. Well done!

Thank you Graham but a far more deserving thank you for your many decades of highly informed dedication to the cause of Bing and your wonderfully reliable articles in the magazine from your Australian perspective.

I've just taken delivery of our early Spring issue and your article there, heavily featuring one of my favourite Bing films, "Rhythm on the River" is a delight. I chuckled when you mentioned upon its 1940 release "Down Under" that the Prince Edward cinema's advertisement plugging Mary Martin's songs, failed to mention any of Bing's vocalised contributions.

This despite our man's then current hit, the classic "Only Forever" featuring and surely what must have been one of Der Bingle's greatest onscreen musical moments, peerlessly performing the title song with such seeming nonchalance, hardware bashing charm and of course ... rhythm.

Please keep remaining one of the regular reasons, Graham for us all to keep subscribing to "Bing" magazine. 

International Club Crosby » BING magazine » 27/1/2026 10:17 pm

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Blonde56 wrote:

Wow! Ian! You have a way with words. You can sell anything. I can picture you on the Telly endorsing the magazine and getting flooded with new subscribers. I haven't contributed in awhile but would love to do so again in the future. Cheerio! Pip! Pip!

As ever, Carmela - your kindness knows no bounds, Thank you but I don't think I'd be asked to return to televisionland for a second selling session, as I believe these sales channels have very strictly timed slots and those of you who've had to tolerate my online ramblings on here and during Jason's meetings (every first Sunday of the month, folks!) will know they'd have to use a vaudeville crook stick to drag me off. We'll all now be eagerly awaiting your next contribution between the covers of our fabulously sparkling "Bing" magazine. 

International Club Crosby » BING magazine » 16/1/2026 2:29 am

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Anyone on here who has not yet subscribed and is able, I would highly recommend that you do as soon as possible. Our esteemed editor, Malcolm ensures that with each issue, this high quality, full colour magazine sized publication is packed full of a variety of highly original, well written and beautifully illustrated articles. Its layout is also of a very high professional standard. Also, anyone who wishes to contribute will be encouraged to do so in a most friendly manner. This has enabled fairly recent subscribers such as Pantelis to write most original, thoughtful and informative pieces which, as you can see from Carmela's enthusiastic comments, have been quickly enjoyed by our membership. So, take a look at the free PDF version and if you like what you see ... SUBSCRIBE NOW - you won't regret it!

International Club Crosby » ICC NOVEMBER Online Meeting » 01/12/2025 9:56 pm

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My name is becoming ever longer, Carmela.
Yes, we're looking forward to the day but we're just going down to browse the lots, as they are ony being exhibited in London before the auction itself actually takes place on 18th December in your neck of the woods, at Sotheby's of New York. So, get your bidding paddle ready and that beautiful walnut wood grand piano we all see being played by Billy Kyle during "Now You Has Jazz" in High Society (and after filming, purchased by Bing), could be yours for its cool reserve of twenty thousand dollars.

International Club Crosby » ICC NOVEMBER Online Meeting » 01/12/2025 7:52 pm

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Now you as Bing would be worth seeing at a future meeting, Carmela.
For that and with my hairline, I'd have to borrow one of Bing's toupées just to begin with. 
You never know, Pantelis and I might even see one for auction at Sotheby's, London when we visit Kathryn's and Bing's collection of exhibited lots for sale later this week.

 

International Club Crosby » ICC NOVEMBER Online Meeting » 28/11/2025 1:06 am

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I believe some were taken but they may have been cremated in tribute on the demise of Miss Andrews.
I seem to remember "Rum and Coca-Cola" being the B-Side of that 45rpm single. 
Very sensible in your avoidance of high heels. 
I never had the calves for them. 

Recording » Bing Crosby - Brunswick 1933 » 26/11/2025 6:40 pm

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Thank you, David.
"There's a Cabin in the Pines" is very beautiful with Bing's sincerity shining through every note and my goodness, as someone who has such a soft spot for his aging 'seventies voice, "My Love" really showcases the man's 1930's voice in tip-top range and breath control. My favourite has to be the lilting "Shadow Waltz" - beautiful orchestration and Bing's waltz interpretation with its affecting pauses and whistling being so beguiling. I remember seeing Nat "King" Cole using the beginning part of its opening chorus to open his television show each week. 

Recording » Bing Crosby - Brunswick 1933 » 26/11/2025 6:27 pm

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Colin Bratkovich wrote:

Yes, I have all the American Brunswick originals. Warning to younger or curious collectors-if found-Make sure you use the correct needle, or you will ruin them.

Are there differing thicknesses of metal needles to play certain 78rpm pressings, Colin? 

International Club Crosby » ICC NOVEMBER Online Meeting » 26/11/2025 4:46 pm

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You're very kind, Carmela but thankfully for everyone present all those decades ago, the Andrews Sisters' recording of "The Boogie Woogie Bugle Boy" was being mimed to via a 45rpm single disc. No ears were harmed by any actual live singing. Dress aside, I will never know how you ladies manage to balance, let alone get around in high heels. Never again! 

Others of Note » Bob Crosby. » 15/11/2025 10:32 pm

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Yes, as with many, I am quite familiar with Doris' 1950's and 1960's output but this also is now making me seek out some of her earlier recordings of the same vintage as David linked on the previous page of this thread. For so long I've enjoyed the Doris Day/André Previn 1962 "Duet" album which contains the well known, "Close Your Eyes". I always thought that one struck a differing mood for Doris but its bouncier, jazzier sensibility, ultimately makes it a far lighter affair than the wonderfully eerie, "While The Music Plays On". Along with the band, whoever was responsible for its atmospheric arrangement should be applauded in equal measure. 

Others of Note » Bob Crosby. » 15/11/2025 4:14 am

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David Lobosco wrote:

Pantelis Kavouras wrote:

No, as far as I know her first recording was Sentimental Journey with Les Brown imediately after she left Bob Crosby.

I'll have to look it up but I don't think Doris Day's first recording was Sentimental Journey. I think she recorded some earlier stuff with Les Brown but she never made a record with Bob Crosby unfortunately.

My favorite record thst Doris Day made with Les Brown was "While The Music Plays On". It is haunting...



This is wonderful, David. Haunting, indeed with the band of renown and their girl singer being in perfect sympathy. Doris had such a mood setting voice, along with such appealing and intimate skills of interpretation. This performance somehow now reminds me of Artie Shaw's instrumental "Nightmare" and has me wondering if Doris ever recorded or sang with him and any of his bands? 

 

 

Others of Note » Bob Crosby. » 15/11/2025 4:05 am

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Alan wrote:

According to both "The Jazz Discography Online" and Brian Rust's "The American Dance Band Discography 1917-1942", Doris Day's first recording session with Les Brown was on Nov. 29, 1940 for Okeh Records. She recorded: "(I Ain't Hep To That Step But I'll) Dig It", "Let's Be Buddies", "While The Music Plays On",
"Three At A Table For Two. As David points out, there are no recordings of Day with the Bob Crosby orchestra (not even radio airchecks, it seems). Interestingly, Vaughan Monroe did play trumpet-including on some of his band's first recordings for Bluebird. 

Goodness me, Alan. Thank you. I had no idea Doris Day's discography stretched as far back to the dawn of the 1940's. This must mean, then that counting her final (?) recordings she undertook in the mid/late-eighties for television and her "Doris Day's Best Friends" show, that her recording career lasted almost fifty years? 
I've also now learned that early on, Vaughn Monroe played the trumpet. This is one of the many reasons I so enjoy this forum. There's always something new to discover. 

International Club Crosby » ICC NOVEMBER Online Meeting » 13/11/2025 3:56 am

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Anton G.-F. wrote:

Thank you, Pantelis, for your always interesting and well-researched contributions to the meetings!Σας ευχαριστώ!

AGF

I'll more than second that. Pantelis, your presentations are always original in concept, immaculately researched and so engagingly delivered. 

International Club Crosby » ICC NOVEMBER Online Meeting » 13/11/2025 3:54 am

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Anton G.-F. wrote:

We did miss you at the last few meetings, Carmela. For those that weren't able to make the meetings, they are all available in chronological order here:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLcrPMqN7tSWeE9kvGv-ZXgGsIKToLoDw0 

AGF

Thank you, Anton - this really helped in my not being able to make the most recent two. 

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