Others of Note » Other vocalists sing of Bing » 24/5/2021 6:49 am

Graham Pascoe wrote:

As we know, the lyrics of many  popular songs include a reference to Bing. I just heard a recording by Al Bowlly which does that but Al interpolated something I'd not heard before: 'direct from Crosby we give it to you' I believe the recording was made in 1940 with Jimmy Messene's orchestra. I wonder what Johnny Burke thought of that.

Graham,  You're referring to "Only Forever" sung as a duet with Jimmy Messene, with both playing guitars. There's no orchestra there. One of Al's last recordings and complete with Crosby "boo-boo-boo" imitations.

 

New and Re-issued materials » New Year issues from Sepia » 05/4/2021 11:00 pm

Ron1972 wrote:

-  Am I right to assume that unlike the CBS recordings released by Mosaic that these were actually sung live during a recording of the live show in front of an audience or maybe as part of a taped rehearsal?  

How do these compare quality-wise with the later CBS recordings?

Ron, the essential difference between the Mosaic set and the Philco and Chesterfield sets from Sepia is that the Mosaic tracks were taken direct from tapes recorded in a small studio without any audience. They benefit from having had no additional intervention, whilst the two series from Sepia were as broadcast, with audience (sometimes live, sometimes dubbed) and then recorded to vinyl discs which were sent out to affiliates of the parent network for broadcast. There are thus several stages during which things can happen and the quality of the surviving disc might also be an issue.

Audio quality in those circumstances can vary and whilst we have taken the best of what we had it would be dishonest to claim they compare with the pristine sound on the Mosaics  (which are slightly later during a period when recording techniques were evolving quite rapidly). 

We can say for certain that some of the shows were recorded in front of a live audience (several from military bases for example), it was becoming increasingly common to dub in audience reactions. There are also several examples of songs being used again. A browse through the discography here http://www.bingmagazine.co.uk/bingmagazine/Crosby2dChesterfield.html
will tell you more. The notes appended to show numbers 1,  7, 17, 36, 51 and 89 (and possibly others) enlarge on the topic. .



 

Radio » Star Spangled Radio Hour with Bing » 17/1/2021 12:14 am

This week's edition of SSRH includes 

KAY KYSER AND HIS ORCHESTRA

Command Performance 31
War Department Bureau of Public Relations
Washington Special Program
August 30, 1942
Constitution Hall
Washington, DC
(SSD)
Paul Douglas, announcer
Bing Crosby, host
With Kay Kyser and his Orchestra, Ish Kabibble, Harry Babbitt, Ginny Simms, Hedy Lamarr, Connee Boswell, Bud Abbott and Lou Costello, Dr. Frank Black and the NBC Orchestra.

Apart from his hosting role Bing sings Basin Street Blues with Connee Boswell and Star Dust.

The usual links

https://cruisin1430.radio.com/…/po…/star-spangled-radio-hour if outside Europe,  or at Dennis Spragg's mirror site at 
https://www.dennismspragg.com/star-spangled-radio-hour/ 
 

Announcements » Things to watch this week » 22/12/2020 7:03 pm

jeremyrose wrote:

Here in the UK I see that the Sky Arts Channel is repeating Discovering: Bing Crosby tomorrow (23rd December) at 6.00pm. I've only recently gained access to Sky Arts via an upgraded Wi-Fi/TV package so I haven't seen this before. They are also showing Happy Holidays With Bing and Frank at 8.30am on Christmas Eve.

The time you give, Jeremy, is that stated in Radio Times, but my updated electronic listing gives 8:45am. It's  probably best to set recorder (if you do not already have the recording) to 8:30 and allow safety margin at both ends!

 

General Discussion » CHRISTMAS 2020 AND NEW YEAR WISHES » 20/12/2020 12:03 pm

What a year. A year I am sure many will wish to forget. A year that for some contained sorrow, illness, and problems in greater measure than most normal years. 

I can't imagine what Bing would have made of it but I'm sure he would have a sombre but comforting message about the past and attempt to lighten matters with more cheery wishes for the future. 
Would he have managed a merry quip? "Mr Christmas" himself was a master of the most appropriate turn of phrase and would have found something I'm sure.

Despite all, may I just express the wish that all manage to do their best to celebrate Christmas in the best possible way. I trust that the New Year might bring improvements and new hope for all.

Meantime, stay well.

Richard Baker

Radio » Star Spangled Radio Hour with Bing » 19/12/2020 7:25 am

Star Spangled Radio Hour celebrate Christmas with Bing.
SSRH have mounted a number of historic items, mainly radio shows.

Christmas Greetings to Decca Records Employees
Recorded 1940, Decca Studios, Los Angeles

Mail Call 61

Dedicated to the AAF Air Service Command
Recorded Wednesday, October 20, 1943

Kraft Music Hall 313

Thursday, December 16, 1943

AFRS Bing Crosby Christmas Album

Assembled October 1944

Kraft Music Hall 351

Thursday, December 21, 1944

The usual links
https://ez1430.radio.com/.../pod.../star-spangled-radio-hour
And for Europe
https://www.dennismspragg.com/star-spangled-radio-hour/
 

Announcements » "Exclusively Bing Crosby" radio channel. » 17/12/2020 11:51 pm

jeremyrose wrote:

I recently downloaded a new radio-player app, and when I typed "Bing Crosby" into the search box I discovered a radio channel called “Exclusively Bing Crosby”, which seems to be based in Dubai! It’s apparently one of any number of “Exclusively…” channels from the same source devoted to various singers. There are some annoying computer-voiced announcements in between the tracks, but they play a pretty varied selection. So far this morning I’ve heard  “Some Of These Days”, “The Preacher” from Bing & Satchmo and the Bing/Chevalier medley from the March ’61 Oldsmobile TV Special!

Just Google "Exclusively Bing Crosby"...

Quite a find Jeremy.
A straight search on Google in the way you describe finds them embedded in a number of internet radio servers, though the direct link to the Dubai base will not work for me. The three servers that I tried all worked well though.

https://uk.radio.net/s/exclusivelybingcrosby
https://mytuner-radio.com/radio/exclusively-bing-crosby-474345/
https://www.radio.pl/s/exclusivelybingcrosby/app

For those not yet familiar with the concept such servers act as gateways to internet radio all over the world, sorting by language, musical genre, etc.

The Bing material includes all eras and both radio and record.
They do keep proclaiming free of commercials only to offer commercials for themselves, sometimes just the one whispered word "Exclusive" and otherwise to make comparisons between themselves and Spotify.




 

New and Re-issued materials » New Year issues from Sepia » 12/12/2020 3:06 pm

Look what Sepia have got lined up for us.
As a follow on to the 2CD set covering Philco Radio Time 
(Click on highlighted link for details)

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/0bY8FGH6gwL9YZVsvv2BCyy7TnLVzBCQJGspDfq-LP9N4X-kVDI7JBKhZjuOvTQ3PPVWMrXDwNGFchWD5K2gzis

there is a 2CD set covering the Chesterfield shows.
(Click on highlighted link for details)

https://www.filmmusicsite.com/images/covers/normal/88166.jpg

The songs were chosen from those rarely covered (or not at all) in previous CD issues, and are mostly of hits by artists other than Bing. It is interesting to hear how he "covers" them.

CD1
1. Chesterfield Intro
2. A Cockeyed Optimist
3. Maybe It's Because
4. I've Got A Lovely Bunch Of Coconuts
5. Marta
6. Candy And Cake
7. Music! Music! Music!
8. A Dream Is A Wish Your Heart Makes With Perry Como
9. Dear Old Girl With Perry Como & Arthur Godfrey 
10. I've Got The World On A String With Mildred Bailey
11. With My Eyes Wide Open I'm Dreaming
12. Old Folks At Home With Lindsay Crosby
13. If I Knew You Were Comin' I'd've Baked A Cake With Beatrice Lillie
14. It Isn't Fair
15. The Lament Of Homer Tracy With Fred Allen   (Very funny)
16. Nevertheless
17. A Bushel And A Peck With Dinah Shore
18. The Tennessee Waltz
19. The Thing With Fred Astaire
20. You're Just In Love With Toni Arden 
21. The Night Is Young And You're So Beautiful
22. Whispering Hope With Dorothy Kirsten 
23. Can Anyone Explain?
24. Mockin' Bird Hill With Les Paul & Mary Ford   (Bing multi voiced with Mary)
25. If
26. Would I Love You?
27. I Apologize
28. The Roving Kind With The Cass County Boys
29. Across The Wide Missouri With The Cass County Boys
30. When You And I Were Young, Maggie Blues With Teresa Brewer

CD2
1. Diane With To

Others of Note » Barbara Windsor » 11/12/2020 4:33 pm

I remember a quick browse through her autobiography at the library some years ago. As I remember it, she says something to the effect that when she was a young struggling actress she met Gary whilst he was in the US forces based in Germany during a trip he made to London on leave for a week or two. He took her on some sort of whirlwind trip around London restaurants that up to that time she could not have afforded. At the end of his leave he proposed to her. I don't remember any confirmation that there was any firm conclusion one way or other. They exchanged letters for a time but things just faded out.

Others might have her book or a better memory than mine and can add to or correct this. So far I have not seen any reference in on line obituaries.
 

Recording » White Christmas makes the Top 40 for the first time since 1962 » 08/12/2020 12:34 pm

Malcolm Macfarlane wrote:

"White Christmas" is back in the charts. See https://twitter.com/billboardcharts/status/1336041416259211266

Fantastic. 
Nostalgia reigns. 
Just at a time when climatological experts are predicting most southern and low lying parts of the UK will not see much or any snow in years to come at Christmas or the winter as a whole. It will really be a question of dreaming then, though White Christmases have been a rarity in many parts for some years, with snow fall usually a little later.  . 

 

Others of Note » Peter Alliss » 08/12/2020 12:26 pm

Ron Field wrote:

Just followed your instructions Richard and clicked on Peter and his death date is there.
Talk about quick.

That is the Wiki entry. Wikipedia often catch such thinks almost the instant it happens. Quite extraordinary.

Others of Note » Peter Alliss » 08/12/2020 12:11 am

In "Day By Day" Malcolm covers an event of 23rd August 1976 with Bing, Peter Alliss, Phil Harris, Sean Connery and Jackie Stewart at Gleneagles.
Follow this link and scroll to August. 23rd. 
http://www.bingmagazine.co.uk/bingmagazine/Chapter_10.htm#Year_1976

Artistic Legacy » ‘Wig’ Wiggins Lives On » 04/12/2020 7:31 am

I'm sure that is a very good point, Archiefit. I fear however that there are a few practical obstacles, one of which is the matter of rights. Wig had significant collection but he, and those who acquire it, have no greater right to disseminate it freely to all than you and I have.



 

Recording » Favorite Bing Crosby Christmas Songs » 01/12/2020 2:33 pm

I have tended to the view that it's like picking a favourite child / grandchild / close relative.
Your favourite is the one you are with at the moment, or to which you happen to be listening..

And why would you want to offend any of them by declaring favouritism?

 

Film » Radio Times picks "High Society" as "Film of the Week" » 28/11/2020 7:39 am

"Radio Times" covering listings for all major TV and radio channels in the UK, for the edition covering the week of 28 November to 4 December, has chosen "High Society" as it's "Film of the week", a regular feature. The article appears to start out to compare the film with Philadelphia Story but that aspect largely fades. The film itself is to be shown on BBC2 today, Saturday 28th November at 11:30 BST, and on BBC4 on Thursday 3 December at 20:00.

Artistic Legacy » More Bing Magazines Added » 26/11/2020 7:36 am

What a phenomenal collection, Jon. A fascinating browse.

 

Links » White-Christmas » 06/11/2020 7:33 am

Several British newspapers have picked up an item.
Apparently a Mr White and a Miss Christmas have married and agreed to merge their names to White-Christmas.
They come from the small coastal town of Bridport, Dorset, where snowfall is pretty light at any time of the year and a white Christmas would be very rare!.
https://www.newsbreak.com/news/2096488579372/bridport-couple-become-mr-and-mrs-white-christmas
I wonder what music was played?

 

Recording » Bing’s Recordings In Stereo » 01/11/2020 7:51 am

ModernBingFan0377 wrote:

I have also tried my hand at ‘remixing’ a mono recording into stereo. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1waSRJ8EkEkEELVe_ncFTQXVN94FaeUMT/view?usp=drivesdk

Well done ModernBingFan.
Quite effective positioning. A lot of the effectiveness of such an approach depends on selection of material and the track you used is ideal. You've managed to separate voices from orchestra very well. 
 

Recording » Bing’s Recordings In Stereo » 31/10/2020 7:50 am

ModernBingFan0377 wrote:

It seems like Robert Parker’s stereo conversions are a mix of these current ones and the slapping reverb on mono tracks in the LP era. His certainly sound more like a hifi mono recording with reverb and a good amount of recording separation, albeit I can’t tell much actual stereo separation. Whereas with these new ones it is more of separating stereo wise to create stereo, but not as much give that similar to hifi recording separation as Robert Parker did. If only we could get a good mix of both.

I think you are mixing ideas and concepts. Parker was adding reverberation to very old recordings because they were originally made in very acoustically "dead" studios. It was necessary to give the same feeling to recordings as those made in later conditions which had a more natural reverberation from the more lively studios. He was not just after creation of stereo but bringing the overall sound up to modern standards.

Addition of the reverberation to later "HiFi" mono recordings was an early crude attempt to give a stereo feel in the hope that sales life would be prolonged at a time when the buying public wanted stereo and nothing but! 

Not only was the motivation and concept different but the methods were miles apart.



 

Recording » Bing’s Recordings In Stereo » 30/10/2020 11:57 pm

jeremyrose wrote:

In the late 80s, BBC Enterprises released a couple of LPs of Crosby tracks dating from 1927 through to 1938 - later available on CD - in a series called “The Classic Years in Digital Stereo”. The tracks were transferred by an Australian sound engineer called Robert Parker who, according to the CD sleeve note, had developed, “a unique system for extracting high quality stereo sound from early mono 78 rpm records”. I’ve just been listening to the CDs for the first time in a good few years and I think they’re very impressive. Good, clean transfers with - to my ears at any rate - very natural stereo separation. I don’t know whether they’re available to stream anywhere, but I’m sure if anyone can find them, ModernBingFan can!

Robert Parker certainly devised a method that added life and a stereo breadth to old recordings that many found realistic, though some purists were critical. There were several series under slightly different "banners" - 
Jazz Classics in Digital Stereo -The Golden Years in Digital Stereo - The Classic Years in Digital Stereo. 
There was a heavy emphasis on jazz from the 1920s and 30s. Releases initially were on the ABC label in Australia and these were also taken up by BBC in Britain. Later issues were on Nimbus and Metronome and I am aware of several sets  that Parker engineered for RCA, of Glenn Miller, Ray Noble, Duke Ellington and Benny Goodman.

There were many CDs, possibly well over 100, but fewer LPs as there were no LP equivalents for later issues. 
I know of four Crosby CDs -   
BING CROSBY IN DIGITAL STEREO 1927 to 1934
https://www.discogs.com/Bing-Crosby-1927-To-1934/release/9120612
BING CROSBY - CLASSIC CROSBY IN DIGITAL STEREO 1931 TO 1938
https://www.discogs.com/Bing-Crosby-Classic-Crosby-1931-To-1938/release/7625156
BING CROSBY - SONG HITS FROM THE MOVIES 1930 to 1953 - The Classic Years In Digital Stereo
https://www.discogs.com/Bing-Crosby-1930-1953-Song-Hits-Fr

Announcements » Winter Wonderland Animated Music Video to Premiere Tomorrow » 25/10/2020 7:25 am

These days, promotion of smoking maybe not such a good idea.
 

Radio » Star Spangled Radio Hour with Bing » 17/10/2020 10:53 pm

Star Spangled Radio Hour include Command Performance #71 in their latest podcast, number 541.

Recorded June 19, 1943
CBS Hollywood

Ken Carpenter, announcer
Bing Crosby and Dinah Shore, hosts
with Vaughn Monroe and his Orchestra, Fanny Brice (Baby Snooks) and Hanley Stafford (Daddy), Mel Banc, Maj. Meredith Willson and the AFRS Orchestra

It includes 
It Can’t Be Wrong (Bing Crosby, vocal), and  Summertime (Bing Crosby and Dinah Shore, vocal)

Links are the usual 

http://media.studio1430.com

or for Europe
https://www.dennismspragg.com/star-spangled-radio-hour/

 

Radio » American Retrospectives - The Greatest Christmas Songs » 11/10/2020 7:10 am

To some extent I suspect your confusion might arise because of the fact that the songs were used repeatedly in Christmas shows over successive years and a few might have actually been the same recordings.

The shows on the records (and there were several issues - see the list here https://www.discogs.com/Bing-Crosby-The-Greatest-Christmas-Shows/release/6158738).

were drawn from the two shows of 14th December 1949 and 19th December 1951, though edited.
It may be that a few of the songs originated from other earlier shows.

Go the the discography here http://www.bingmagazine.co.uk/bingmagazine/Crosby2dChesterfield.html
and the radio show listing here http://www.bingmagazine.co.uk/bingmagazine/chesterfield.htm
for full details with the record issues shown for the shows and individual songs.

Either scroll down to the dates or search on AMERICAN RETROSPECTIVES.

Ethel Barrymore was in the show on 21st December 1949 which does not feature on the record.


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Recording » Medley Of Gus Edwards Hits DLA-1796-A...... » 10/10/2020 10:41 pm

Colin Bratkovich wrote:

I got my 'fluff' from Curtin Call"

- which confirms it is the discarded version for the film. It is the identical arrangement as in the film and very different to the medley issued on the record DLA 1796. 
 

Artistic Legacy » Bing Crosby Million Sellers updates /more/ » 10/10/2020 12:06 pm

I'd be interested to know if anyone has ideas about such counting.

Whilst I know next to nothing about this particular aspect of Bing's popularity, I'd think that Decca were counting the two "main" recordings of White Christmas as one. After all, to a great extent they preserved the fiction that the '47 re-recording was the original, showing the incorrect earlier date on all LP and CD issues despite usage of the '47 version into the 1990s.

In addition there was no need for them to keep different counts for any rights purposes.
As to the other titles  - -   ?

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