Others of Note » Bea Wain - A Ghost Of A Chance » 28/5/2023 4:31 pm

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Another Crosby connection is that in the late 30s Bea Wain led a vocal quartet called, 'Bea and The Bachelors', whose personnel included former 'Rhythm Boy' Al Rinker.

Biography » Gary Giddins biography audiobook » 25/5/2023 6:57 pm

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I've just finished listening to the unabridged audiobook version of Vol. 1 of the Gary Giddins biography of Bing, downloaded from Amazon's 'Audible' division. It's been a couple of years since I last re-read the 'physical' book, but for some reason, listening to the audiobook version for the first time has made me realise even more keenly what an absolutely amazing feat of research, scholarship and downright bloody good writing this is! Giddins's analyses of the most significant of Bing's recordings from the very early Whiteman days through to the early Jack Kapp/Decca sessions are models of erudition, coupled with an obvious affection for, and appreciation of, Bing's prodigious talents. I listen through earphones whilst I'm out walking, and when I get home - having made a mental note of the recordings Giddins has focused on - I invariably take the relevant CD volume of 'The Chronological Bing Crosby' down from the shelf, together with the 'physical' book, and listen again with the analyses in front of me. I've found it to be a very rewarding exercise and would be interested to hear whether any other CFW contributors have had a similar experience.

Recording » UK 'Gramophone' magazine Centenary Issue. » 27/3/2023 6:13 pm

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Bear with me - there is a Bing connection here..! 

April 2023 marks the 100th anniversary of the publication of the first issue of Gramophone magazine - the UK’s premier journal dedicated to reviews of classical recordings. I have been subscribing to Gramophone for more years that I have been an ICC member! The centenary issue contains a series of articles dedicated to each of the decades since the magazine’s founding. That for the 1940s naturally concentrates largely on the war years and contains extracts from a number of letters to Gramophone from classical music loving servicemen who were being held prisoner in POW camps in Germany. For example, in October 1941, Driver MC Moore, writing from Stalag XXB POW camp, told how gramophones and records were supplied to working camps of 100 men or more, 30 records being the average. More often than not, the discs were of Beethoven, Bach and Mozart. However, writes Driver Moore, woe betide, ‘…the POW who wanted to listen to Bach. I personally have been told in no uncertain terms, just where to go when attempting it. The war cry was, “Give us Bing!”’ 

I sympathise with Driver Moore, but can’t help smiling at the thought of a sublime Bach fugue being shouted down in favour of Bing singing San Antonio Rose!

Recording » “Bing Crosby’s Irish Songbook” - Streaming March 10 » 18/3/2023 8:47 pm

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This is a fantastic compilation, but my only very slight criticism - and it may well depend on which streaming platform you're using - is that there is absolutely no 'gap' between the tracks, so there is no time to catch your breath between a lovely ballad and an upbeat number.

Recording » “Bing Crosby’s Irish Songbook” - Streaming March 10 » 11/3/2023 10:03 am

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Many thanks to John and David for identifying the sources of the tracks. I subscribe to the Qobuz streaming service so I've lined up this and the Valentine's album for streaming in CD quality. Qobuz allows me to 'import' tracks for offline listening, but only within the Qobuz app, so I couldn't burn a CD from them. To do that you have to purchase the album from Qobuz and download the tracks. You can then do what you like with them! Current price for the album in CD quality is £13.99. Amazon's tracks are mp3 quality and the album is £10.29.

Recording » Underrated Bing Crosby » 08/3/2023 8:56 am

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I've always really enjoyed 'A Flight of Fancy' from 1952, with Camerata and his orchestra. It was written for, but not used in, the film, Just For You. I think it's an underrated song and it fits Bing to a tee..!

General Discussion » Rolling Stone 200 Best Singers of All Time » 11/1/2023 8:51 am

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I think David Krayden's article neatly sums up what we all feel about Bing's inexplicable neglect today, but I agree with Ron that he misses an essential point about Bing's unsurpassed influence on popular singing in the 20th century. 

I have always thought that one of the most significant examples of this sincerest form of flattery is that of Al Jolson, whose style of singing Bing single-handedly rendered obsolete, but who affected numerous Crosby vocal mannerisms in his later years.

Dean Martin summed it up nicely in his tribute at the time of Bing's death. 'Any singer who approaches a microphone has to pass through Bing Crosby's shadow first'.

Television » Nelson Riddle » 04/12/2022 11:04 pm

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ModernBingFan0377 wrote:

I agree to a tee, though I don’t think Bing would’ve ever made an album like that without ample persuasion. As noted in one of his letters to Ken Barnes about “Seasons,” he liked having a couple more swinging numbers to offset ballads, he thought listeners would get bored with him singing ballads for a whole album. Evidently he was wrong in that respect, and I’m very sad we never got a fully solemn contemplative album.

That's a very good point. I had forgotten about the correspondence with Ken Barnes. I still think it's a shame Bing wasn't coaxed out of his comfort zone - rather in the way he had been nearly 20 years earlier with Bing Sings Whilst Bregman Swings.
 

Television » Nelson Riddle » 03/12/2022 11:08 pm

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Archiefit wrote:

So right.  And can you imagine with that minimalist piano style of Gordon Jenkins if Bing had made some beautiful recordings with him.   I think if Bing had made an album similar in style to Godon's  "Jimmy Durante's Way of Life".   What a fine Bing album it would be. 

I agree with Archiefit. One of my favourite ever albums - Bing or otherwise - is Harry Nilsson's 1973 release A Little Touch of Schmilsson in the Night, a selection of 'Golden Age' standards with wonderfully lush arrangements by the great Gordon Jenkins. Although Nilsson very occasionally brings a contemporary 70s 'pop' touch to a couple of the tracks, I nevertheless think that the whole concept of the album would have suited Bing to a tee and a similar project would have made a wonderful addition to that amazing late flowering of his recording career.

Artistic Legacy » Mel Brooks on Gary Giddins Volumes of Bing Crosby » 30/11/2022 11:57 pm

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I have a feeling (and it is only a feeling...) that if the third volume is ever to appear, it won't be authored by Gary Giddins. I understand that Gary enjoyed the full co-operation of the Crosby family and BCE when researching Vol. 3 and that, as previously mentioned in this thread, that research is complete. I have absolutely no idea how these things work in the publishing world, but assuming that Little,Brown & Co. own the rights to that research, would it be beyond the realms of possibility that, in the interests of Bing's legacy if nothing else, some sort of licensing arrangement could be made between the Crosby family, Mr Giddins and Little, Brown & Co., to commission a third-party author to complete the project? 

Film » Anything Goes 1936 » 16/10/2022 1:46 am

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Very grateful to Archiefit for the link to 'The Star Maker' but - er - the thread concerns a hi-def copy of the 1936 'Anything Goes'..!

Film » Anything Goes 1936 » 14/10/2022 10:30 am

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Me too please, David. Thanks very much indeed for the kind offer...
 

Film » Anything Goes 1936 » 03/10/2022 8:25 am

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The 1936 version of 'Anything Goes' has always been at the top of my list of Bing's movies that I would love to see in re-mastered HD versions rather than ropey old YouTube transfers, so it's amazing that David has managed to track down just a version! I know that a lot of the wonderful Cole Porter songs were ditched, but I love the on-screen chemistry between Bing and Ethel Merman.

Recording » 1939's Whistling In The Wildwood » 30/7/2022 7:20 am

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Ron Field wrote:

Jeremy, must ad that 1934 was a very good year,! My parents thought so..

A very good year indeed, Ron..! Hope you and Anita are both keeping well.
 

Recording » 1939's Whistling In The Wildwood » 23/7/2022 4:36 pm

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Blonde56 wrote:

David, That's a Great song for Bing. It got me thinking. How many songs does Bing Whistle on? Maybe someone can compose a list? Also, love If I Had My Way. I was playing the song one day, back in good old Brooklyn when mom heard it and started crying. She told me her favorite uncle use to sing it all the time. She made me play it again and she knew all the words!

Hi Carmela, and a belated welcome back to the board..!

Regarding songs on which Bing whistled, I'm pretty sure someone has compiled a list! I can't quite put my finger on who at the moment, but I'm sure Malcolm will know!

Great to hear the story about your mum and 'If I Had My Way'...

Recording » 1939's Whistling In The Wildwood » 22/7/2022 7:39 pm

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Hmm... Interesting, David...

I've just had a look through Bing's 1939 output and although I know it's very subjective, there a few I would personally put above 'Whistling...' 

'Ciribiribin' was the first Bing and The Andrews Sisters track I stumbled across back in the very early seventies and it still has me grinning from ear-to-ear every time I hear it - not least because of Joe Venuti's contribution; 'An Apple For The Teacher' features the divine Connie Boswell and, for some reason, 'East Side of Heaven' has always been a very firm favourite. However, 'If I Had My Way' has to take the top spot. I've always loved Bing's rendition of this song, but it took on a special significance a few months ago when I was visiting my elderly parents down in Cornwall. My mum was born in 1934 so would, of course, have heard a lot of Bing over the airwaves as she was growing up during the war. One evening during my visit, I was doing the dishes in the kitchen after dinner and started gently singing, 'If I Had My Way' to myself. Mum came into the kitchen to make coffee and suddenly started singing along with me - word-perfectly - right to the end of the song! She had no idea how she could remember all the lyrics so clearly after so many years, but simply said, 'Well, it was Bing, wasn't it...'

I know that may all seen cloyingly sentimental, but I'm afraid I make no apology for that. After all, 'It's Bing, isn't it...' 

 

Recording » 1932's "Lawd, You Made The Night Too Long" » 18/7/2022 8:06 am

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Ian Kerstein wrote:

 Can anyone bring to mind any out and out jazz sides Bing recorded during his Kapp years?

The 2-CD set, "The Jazzin' Bing Crosby", with an excellent booklet essay by Stan Britt, contains nine tracks from the Jack Kapp years, most of which seem to me to have been chosen more because of the jazz credentials of Bing's collaborators - Louis Armstrong, Joe Venuti, the divine Connie Boswell, etc. - than anything inherently 'jazzy' in the tracks themselves. There are two tracks, however, which in my opinion do represent a "jazzin' " Bing Crosby - 'Someday Sweetheart', with the Georgie Stoll Orchestra from the very first Decca/Jack Kapp session on 8th August 1934 and 'Moonburn' from 13th November 1935, with an instrumental trio drawn from the Stoll band. 

Will Friedland's 1996 book, 'Jazz Singing' contains a fascinating passage comparing the relative influences of Bing and Louis Armstrong on American popular music of the late '20s and early '30s, and for a purely personal view of the significance of that first Jack Kapp session on Bing's musical development, could I humbly give a nod towards my article 8th August 1934 in issue 176 of 'Bing' magazine.

Recording » 1932's "Lawd, You Made The Night Too Long" » 14/7/2022 10:31 pm

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This is going to sound like I'm complaining - which I'm not - but I think the reason for Bing moving away from his jazz influences during the Decca years can be summed up in two words - Jack Kapp.
 

Recording » 1932's "Lawd, You Made The Night Too Long" » 13/7/2022 5:33 pm

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I agree with David that it's a great shame Bing didn't record more with the Boswell Sisters. Although I love the stuff he recorded with the swing-orientated Andrews Sisters, I find the Boswells' style - which was more rooted in jazz -  much more exciting to listen to. As far as I know all we have of them together are the two commercial sides and that tantalising snippet of St Louis Blues from the Woodbury show of Nov. 13th 1934.
At least we have the wonderful tracks he made with Connee - many of which have always been on my 'desert-island' list of Crosby recordings.

General Discussion » Elvis Made Less Income Than Bing in 2021 » 07/7/2022 8:02 am

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Firstly, apologies to the moderators for veering off-topic in this thread. I should know better..!
Having said that...You're very kind, Ian, but the 'archival wonder' is the late Lionel Pairpoint, whose 'And Here's Bing..!' The Radio Directories' is an absolutely invaluable resource for anything pertaining to Bing's incredible radio career.

General Discussion » Elvis Made Less Income Than Bing in 2021 » 04/7/2022 4:52 pm

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Ian Kerstein wrote:

Hooray for Cagney, too!

Will "The Roaring Twenties", biopic "Yankee Doodle Dandy" or "White Heat" be among them, Blonde56?
Did Jim and Bing ever work together? I know they were jointly on a Hollywood Victory Caravan tour.
Unforgettable table top dance routine with Bing's road buddy Bob in another biopic, "The Seven Little Foys", where Cagney reprised his "Yankee Doodle .. " role of George M Cohan. 

Cagney was a guest on Bing's KMH show on 25th February 1937. Other guests included 'regular' comic Bob Burns, Scottish operatic soprano Mary Garden and Hollywood gossip columnist Sidney Skolsky. Apparently, Bing, Cagney and Skolsky did a skit wherein Crosby and Cagney try to persuade Skolsky to reveal where and how he gets all the gossip he prints. Unfortunately, as far as I'm aware, nothing survives of this KMH show.

Radio » Bing Crosby - Old Glory » 04/7/2022 4:40 pm

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Redmond Nostalgia was a great resource. I bought 220-odd Bing CDs from them, but also quite a few Gordon MacRae 'Railroad Hour' issues and Mario Lanza's Coca-Cola-sponsored radio show. 

Radio » Bing Crosby - Old Glory » 03/7/2022 9:21 pm

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Thanks for posting that, David...

The entire War Bond Rally of 30th June 1943, broadcast from The Hollywood Bowl, was released on CD some years ago on the much-missed Redmond Nostalgia label, and it boasted quite a line-up! As well as Bing and the Rudy Vallee orchestra, the evening also featured Dinah Shore, Edward G Robinson, a young Kathryn Grayson, George Burns and Gracie Allen, jazz pianist Hazel Scott, Betty Hutton, Cecil B DeMille and violin virtuoso Joseph Szigeti.

Recording » A lost Bing Crosby demo..?! » 21/6/2022 11:48 am

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Many of you may be aware of this, but Malcolm recently forwarded this YouTube link to me with what purports to be a 'lost' Bing Crosby demo..! 

“In The Twilight Rays” LOST Bing Crosby demo! - YouTube

For what it's worth, I've listened to it a number of times and although it's an uncanny impersonation, I'm convinced it's not Bing. There are several tiny clues in the vocal delivery (mainly in the use of the mordent, which Bing used completely naturally, but which here sounds a bit 'forced') but they are tiny, and I can completely understand anyone being convinced - at a first hearing - that it is Bing! Also, the piano accompaniment is perfectly adequate, but to my ear sounds rather 'clunky', maybe suggesting an amateur pianist. (Absolutely no disparagement to amateur pianists intended..!)

Have a listen and share your thoughts on CFW.

Malcolm has done some research on the songwriter, some of the results of which you can see in the YouTube comments section...

Others of Note » The HOUSE THAT JACK BUILT » 15/6/2022 7:43 am

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Lobosco wrote:

Here is the Decca version of the song that Bing recorded on July 17, 1936...


 

Thanks David. (I wouldn't have the first clue how to make a song appear on CFW..!)
 

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