Recording » Bing Sings The Irving Berlin Songbook » 15/1/2018 11:06 pm

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Richard

must be a technical glitch as I see some of the posts have gone missing from this thread......

Recording » Thoughts on... » 10/1/2018 6:46 pm

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Hi Jim

It would appear to be a compilation of Christmas tracks and not one I've spotted in the UK; however if you are looking for individual track information I always start with the indispensable Bing Crosby Discography in the link below. I copied and pasted each of them to a word document and this has meant I can do a simple search using keywords for each track as oppose to searching through....hope this helps

http://www.bingmagazine.co.uk/bingmagazine/crosby.html



 

Recording » Thoughts on... » 07/1/2018 10:48 am

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Well the music on the Mosiac set was licensed from BCE/Universal, and then they inturn started to issue the current series, so there is duplication through many of the sets, with the original New Tricks and Some Fine Old Chestnuts themselves coming from these sessions. Thankfully the new editions of both these albums are augmented by lots of previously unreleased material

Bing in Dixieland (8), Bing On Broadway (2) and Bing Sings The Great American Songbook (4) are probably the sets with the most duplication, however there remains tracks on all that were not released elsewhere which I have put the quantity in brackets next to the albums above. Arguably if you bought the Mosiac set, you could download these individual tracks from Itunes or another source if you so desired. I'm old school and feel if I'm spending say £3.96 on 4 download tracks, I may as well go the whole hog and buy the CD. I did however buy these three sets prior to forking out for the Mosiac box, and I still think they are fabulous compilations/collections in their own right.  I would have to pull out my notes on Shall We Dance and With All My Heart, however I recall all of the CBS recordings that appear on these sets, also appear on the Mosiac set (with the exception of Lady In Spain - take 2 I think). 

Ultimately the Mosiac Set is a very small snapshot in a lustrous career, and if you are a fan of these recordings with  Bing, Buddy Cole and his band then there is lots to get very excited about and its worth every penny. For me this is my favourite period of Bing's career. 

 

Recording » Thoughts on... » 06/1/2018 9:39 pm

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Ron1972 wrote:

In fact I really feel I have too much Bing right now because there is a lot that I haven't gotten around to listening to!

My fear is though that some of these things won't be available down the road. Something that has already frustrated me!

Oh dear.....seems you have contracted "Record Collectors Syndrome".......this happens to the best of us!!!

I have spent years building up a record collection, including a huge amount of back catalogue (read "old") albums for the very fear that they will go out of print. I am only now starting to ease off and I now have a wonderful collection to enjoy for years to come......

So.....2 bits of advice....1) there's never "too much Bing". 2) If you can, pick them up now whilst they are available and then sit back and enjoy them at your leisure......I have albums I am less familiar with, but will get round to listening to them in more depth when the notion strikes.....that's harder to do when they are OOP and very expensive.

Recording » Thoughts on... » 06/1/2018 12:14 pm

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If I were to pick 2  from your selection I would pick

Bing & Rosie: The Crosby Clooney Radio Sessions
Bing Sings the Irving Berlin Songbook


I have commented on the Berlin set previously...so you know my thoughts. 

as for the Crosby Clooney Radio Sessions. This is an exhilarating set. My favourite set by the duo (I know!!), with far too many highlights to mention. Some 61 tracks (with a few duplication in takes). The more intimate setting of the small band recordings works perfectly, and the occasional studio fluff adds to the ambiance

So Rare is the perfect companion to Among My Souvenirs, which you already have and has much strong previously unreleased material on it and makes a close third for me,

Shall We Dance & With All My Heart are digital only collections. They contain some duplication with other sets and some rare bits. No longer available outwith the USA I believe. 

Can't comment on Bing Crosby & Rosemary Clooney: The New Recording as I don't have this. Didn't pick it up when it came out and the CD is now quite pricey in the UK

Not sure how much you have to spend, and I am going to assume you don't have the Mosiac box set -which is currently back in print and worth every penny- however assuming you don't want to stretch that far, the two sets I play a lot is Bing On Broadway and Bing In Dixieland (just to add to your confusion).

Regardless which sets you buy they are all full of great quality recordings and great notes. Good shopping. 



 

General Discussion » Happy New Year!! » 01/1/2018 2:55 pm

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Happy New Year Folks!!!!!!!

I think by now everywhere is new year, so hope you all had enjoyable celebrations, and best wishes for the year to come

Recording » Bing Sings The Irving Berlin Songbook » 01/1/2018 2:53 pm

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Oh......Le Bing!!!......good call.....one of my favourites... such an unusual one in the Bing catalogue....being sung in French and all....Tu Ne Peux Pas Te Figurer is simply magnificant.

You've  got a good amount of quality Bing to listen to though....these are all excellent (read critical) sets...should get you through the dark winter nights......the two new sets New Tricks and Among My Souviners are on constatnt rotation in my car currently.

To help with some context; of the songbooks (Sinatra, Mercer, Berlin ) the Berlin one is my favourite. I found the Sinatra one an oddball, because most of these songs are so strongly associated with Sinatra, and when i'm in the mood for listening to these songs, I must admit I pick out the Sinatra albums first...so its one I maybe need to listen to more, and your mentioning of it may push me to do so. The Mercer set is fantastic (P.S I Love You 1953 is another of my favourites), but I prefer Berlin as a songwriter. 

Linking both Berlin and Sinatra.....Sinatra's All Alone album is one of my favorite of his albums and contains 4 amazing renditions of Berlin songs also...All Alone, What'll I Do, Remember & The Song Is Ended. If you not familar with it, its a great album........although buy Bing first!!!



 

Recording » Bing Sings The Irving Berlin Songbook » 31/12/2017 1:23 pm

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Worth every penny this set. Sure its a compilation, and there is duplication, however collecting all these Irving Berlin tracks on one set is fantastic.

When I Lost You may simply be one of the most effecting songs Irving ever wrote, given it was written following the death of his own young bride. The Song is Ended (But The Melody Lingers On) may be one of my favourite late period Crosby performances. 

Irving had a fantastic way of writing the tunes.....Bing was undoubtedly the best at delivering them.

I will be absolutely honest.....I detest the version of White Christmas with Michael Buble added. Completely unnecessary and in my opinion Buble is no better than a pub/club singer. Other may disagree though.

Malcolm's right though....these sets are not particularly expensive (especially in the USA), well produced, great notes....and if we can't even get folks on a Bing Crosby Forum to make the purchases then we can probably kiss goodbye to further collections. 

I am not a particular fan of Bing's sing along albums, however I've purchased each one that has come out, knowing they will probably just gather dust on my shelf.....however also knowing that my continued support may encourage the release of sets I would prefer.

Treat yourself.....an extra late Christmas present to yourself.

General Discussion » CHRISTMAS 2017 » 24/12/2017 4:24 pm

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Merry Christmas everyone!!!! And best wishes for the New Year.....

Wonder what 2018 will bring Bing-wise?????

 

Recording » Well, Bust my buttons.... UMe is releasing "new" stuff on CD!!!! » 19/12/2017 3:54 pm

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Richard

My Among The Souvenirs arrived today and the hubs you mentioned were completely broken when I opened the packaging and all the little plastic bits fell to the floor as did the CDs.

I have had to notify the seller.

That said I am loving this set..... possibly more so than the So Rare set. Some wonderful performances. And whist Diana Ross and the Supremes are no Andrew Sisters, it makes for a very enjoyable, if not surprising collaboration.

Super sets ....both already transferred to the Ipod and the car.

Recording » Well, Bust my buttons.... UMe is releasing "new" stuff on CD!!!! » 19/12/2017 9:09 am

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Doesn't spoil the album thankfully...only a couple of seconds at the end of the track. I always try and give my first listen to Bing albums with headphones on....so undoubtedly you pick up things you wouldn't normally catch.

Other than that the set is fabulous. Always loved Gigi, however don't think I have heard All The Time or Allegheny Moon before and they are the standouts currently.

On the origional album it was always great to see Bing pay homage to Al Jolson on a couple of tracks. The Bing Crosby meets Al Jolson Sepia set if probably one of my favourite albums of all time given my love of Jolson also.

Recording » Well, Bust my buttons.... UMe is releasing "new" stuff on CD!!!! » 18/12/2017 4:11 pm

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New Tricks turned up today!!!! The original album is like an old familiar hound and the bonus tracks are fabulous. Christmas did come early..... hopefully Among My Souvenirs turn up tomorrow.

Couple of things though!!!!

1) Where does this track list of the original album order come from??? All previous editions I have start with When I Take My Sugar To Tea and ends with Alabamy Bound.
2) At the very end of More Than You Know there appears to be a slight warble in the tape, noticeable in Bings voice and organ. It not present on my origional MCA CD version (the Mosaic box set must be a edit as its 2 minutes shorter). Tape degradation?? Assume its on everybody's copy and not just my pressing?

New and Re-issued materials » Thoroughly Modern Bing » 12/12/2017 2:16 pm

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It would be interesting to see if the tracklist of the CD is the same as the digital download.

There were 13 songs recorded for this album, but they never all seem to appear at the same time.

The original album and the digital version of this misses the track Where The Rainbow Ends.

I have a Lazerlight version (A Visit To The Movies) that includes that track but loses I Call You Sunshine

And I may stand corrected, but I'm not sure the track Thats All I Want From You from the same sessions has not appeared on any version yet, although he had previously recorded it for CBS on March 2 1955 ( and is on Mosiac Box set). Maybe someone could clarify??

Recording » Well, Bust my buttons.... UMe is releasing "new" stuff on CD!!!! » 10/12/2017 7:37 pm

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paulmock wrote:

I am immersed in Christmas music now so I shall add these to my Christmas gifts and enjoy after the turn of the New Year. 
 

 
How can you possibly wait until the new year to listen them!!!

I mean to have then sitting there and not play????

Your just mocking (no pun intended) us Brits that are having to wait, eh Paul.

Recording » Well, Bust my buttons.... UMe is releasing "new" stuff on CD!!!! » 08/12/2017 8:07 am

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No suprise....no UK release.....purchased through Amazon third party again....might get in time for Christmas!!!

Amazon are selling via prime as long as your happy to pay £25 & £15 for each set. Managed to get both for £21

The waits worse than waiting for Christmas

Recording » Well, Bust my buttons.... UMe is releasing "new" stuff on CD!!!! » 20/10/2017 1:57 pm

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Amazon Uk now listing these but no current option to pre-order. They are noted as Import though and my recent experience of Amazon with CDs noted as Import is they make them available for sale but recent prices have been £17.22 & £17.54 for single CDs.

The will of course be available at much cheaper price by other sellers as well.

**** Remember folks, ALL Bing releases need to be supported if we wish to see them continued, so don't forget to buy or put on your Santa list.

Recording » Well, Bust my buttons.... UMe is releasing "new" stuff on CD!!!! » 15/10/2017 11:08 am

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Both are now ready for pre-order on amazon.com. No sign on UK counterpart yet. Hopefully they get a UK release. Fairly certain last time I had to buy via a US seller and finally recieved them in  the January.

Recording » Well, Bust my buttons.... UMe is releasing "new" stuff on CD!!!! » 14/10/2017 8:59 am

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I was hoping for at least a Deluxe Edition of Bing: A Musical Anthology before they abandoned the 50's. I have it numerous times but a new edition would sit well on the shelf amongst the other new additions.

But as the 50's studio output was covered so recently in the Through The Years series, maybe they are thinking better to reissue less available material for better sales, and therefore the 60's is the place to tap.

Of course speculation is fine but going by recent release schedules for these releases we do potentially have another 14 months to wait on any future output beyond the current two.

Recording » Well, Bust my buttons.... UMe is releasing "new" stuff on CD!!!! » 13/10/2017 5:51 pm

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Although I have them already, Im loving the reissue of the classic albums with additional material so New Tricks is a welcome sight ( and who doesn't love that cover?).

Does make you wonder which album they will reissue next if this is a commitment to continuing.....start speculating now!!

It will be interesting to get a bit more detail for the The Among My Souvenirs collection. Dates, sources etc

Of course this is very simple but as a community, if we want these releases to continue, we must purchase.

Recording » Well, Bust my buttons.... UMe is releasing "new" stuff on CD!!!! » 13/10/2017 4:44 pm

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Were you just teasing us before Paul??? Or purposely lowering our expectations to make the news sound even better???

Brilliant news for both releases.

Swaps and Sales » The Chronological Bing Crosby Series from Jonzo - Complete Set » 11/10/2017 4:07 pm

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There was an American seller recently on ebay. You had to search through international sellers. He had a number of volumes selling individually for quite some time ( but not a complete set), although his postage charge was astronomical.

Worth a search.

Biography » 40 years » 11/10/2017 4:01 pm

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He'll never truly ever be forgotten whilst theres still a Christmas, but unfortunately for the vast majority this is the only exposure they have had of Bing. 

Although same can be said for Roy Wood, and he's still with us!!!!

Hard to grumble though....we have had quite a number of releases over the past decade, but theres always room for more!!

"Seasons" though. Away now to pop that on the CD player

Links » Who is a deserving modern comparison to Bing? » 10/10/2017 7:32 am

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Music, film etc has never been so accessible due to the internet and with so many sources to obtain them, such as the multiple streaming services. However there is now such a general dilution  of accessible entertainment that the days of millions of people all  watching the same TV show or radio show is all but over and therefore its hard to imagine one "star" ever making such an impact ever again. 

Growing up, whether you liked them or not, it was hard not to he aware of culturally significant "events" or artists; whether that be Elvis, punk movement, Michael Jackson. The "dilution" means its actually easier to switch off and be unaware unless you choose to.

It doesn't help that there is a youth generation that now has the attention span if a gnat. My children, in their late teens/early 20's, believe its unthinkable to sit down and listen to an album of one artist.

Discussion Board Use and Registration Isssues » This board » 09/10/2017 1:56 pm

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A reflection of the times I guess. Its a bit sad but the slow up of physical sales as oppose to streaming is at a real risk of killing off reissues of such material. When established current acts can no longer make money from album releases, you can understand record companies reluctant to invest in older material.

I do see "digital" only releases and re-issues starting to creep in more and more and wonder if BCE were testing the water with the digital only Shall We Dance and With All My Heart compilations a few years back.

Infact I saw the first Amazon Original produced album yesterday (Lisa Loeb). Done in the same manner as producing thier own films and TV shows. Available for free streaming to Prime members and wonder if this is a further move away from the norm.

As for me....I only do physical formats...no streaming....so if changes continue I will save a fortune.

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