Film » "King Of Jazz" to be screened at The London Film Festival » 18/2/2018 2:11 pm

Bingmo wrote:

----  I'm sure this restoration will be a vast improvement. 

It is.

This is a sample

Film » "King Of Jazz" to be screened at The London Film Festival » 11/2/2018 9:20 am

I have seen several favourable references to the quality of "King Of Jazz" from the public screenings.

Now the restored version is coming out on Blu Ray on March 27th
There are a number of "extras" and I am interested to note that they include an audio commentary by Gary Giddins, 
Amazon US are taking pre -orders. -

So far only region A/1 has been announced. I fail to understand such an approach with older material such as this. Multi region DVD players are easy to come by and are very cheap, which defeats the idea behind regional coding. Multi region Blu Ray players are not so easy to find and are expensive but I suspect that in due course they also will be more easy to acquire.  

Recording » Bing Magazine finally tipped the scale for the Mosaic set! » 10/2/2018 8:09 am

Archiefit wrote:

What??  My pictures of the other 3 CD releases I described above didn't show up on the message, only the first picture.   Dang, don't know what goes on here, why the board allows one picture but not any more to be posted is anybody's guess. 

"Archiefit"  - I have taken the liberty of editing the image URL addresses to correct the problem. The board does not like situations where the address of the image has been "nested" too many times and it is best to select a site that has it's own original image such as Discogs or Amazon. There are also other situations which will not work.  I am uncertain of the precise reason why your attempt to display images was unsuccessful but I did note that all the failed URL addresses were of great length and I would guess that they might have been too long for the placeholder. I do not think that there is any specific limit to the number that you can place in any one posting.

Recording » Bing Magazine finally tipped the scale for the Mosaic set! » 09/2/2018 3:51 pm

Bingmo wrote:

I've heard about the re-mixed version of many of these recordings. Was that a Ken Barnes project? 

I may have to listen to the "New Recordings" to get a sense of what those sound like.

Thanks, Archiefit!

"Bingmo", Ken Barnes produced orchestral overdubbings of a large number of the CBS radio recordings in the late 1970s, and these were issued in various forms. Ultimately all of the tracks that had been so treated were issued on a three CD (and LP and cassette)  box set named "The 10th Anniversary Collection" in 1987, the 10th anniversary of Bing's death. Some tracks have appeared in other compilations since.

You can find details by browsing through this link

The more recent issue "The New Recordings" is very different in treatment.The CBS radio recordings all originally had the small Buddy Cole combo whereas the "New Recordings" material varied in the original musical backing, using recordings that covered a number of years and styles.

The result is that the 1970s treatment of the CBS radio material added an orchestral (and in some cases choral) accompaniment to the original piano/guitar/bass/drums combo, whereas the "New Recordings" treatment overlaid, and to a large extent obscured, the original orchestral parts, creating the stereo spread and adding additional parts to make them more "modern" sounding.  

The results are very different.

Links » Promo Disc for "Starmaker" » 07/1/2018 7:45 am

David Currington, in Australia, parts of which are enjoying (or enduring) a heatwave, in contrast to parts of the northern hemisphere, has drawn attention to the promotional disc on Youtube for the movie "Starmaker" from 1939.
Here "Go Fly A Kite"

and here "And Still The Bluebird Sings"

Thanks, David, and thanks to the Youtube poster,  "cdbpdx", whoever they may be.


Recording » Bing Sings The Irving Berlin Songbook » 31/12/2017 1:32 pm

I had no intention of dissuading you from getting this CD, Ron.

It is a very good mix of songs from Irving Berlin who was a giant during the "golden age".
In trying to produce a balanced view and noting a few mildly adverse points I had no intention of tipping the scales too far.

- A fantastic array of the best from Berlin sung by Bing, one of the performers best qualified to do so.
- Some hard to come by tracks and a few unique.
- In general very good sound.

- Slightly variable sound levels between tracks (but nothing that cannot be resolved by use of volume control).
- Some of the tracks will already be owned on other CDs possibly several times over by many fans.

- Some distortion of a track or two that might be noticed by those with higher quality equipment.

As I said earlier, you will not be disappointed.


Recording » Bing Sings The Irving Berlin Songbook » 31/12/2017 12:43 am

Ron1972 wrote:

I added a few new albums to my collection and noticed "Bing Sings The Irving Berlin Songbook". I searched the forum looking to see if there had been much conversation about this album and was disappointed to find very little written about it. 

So forum friends, thoughts on this collection? I hate to buy something just for the sake of buying it but if it offers selections not easily found elsewhere I certainly would be interested in it. 

Again looking forward to your feedback!

The issue was one of a large number issued simultaneously by Bing Crosby Enterprises/UMG in 2014, and was probably a little overlooked simply because it was part of a rather overwhelming batch.

In "Keeping Track", issue #169 of BING magazine I wrote  

When I first saw details of this issue I felt that it was likely to be the best of the crop. The selection of songs written by one of the greats from the Golden Age could hardly be better though some might quibble over the precise selection. Personally I would have liked fewer tracks from commercial issues, which have been widely available. Several tracks are from early-ish radio and are welcome for that alone. Two tracks are from one of the major neglected sources, the “Longines” recordings.

I went on to mention differences in audio levels between tracks, and noted that on one track I could hear a small amount of peak level distortion. I don't think that you will be disappointed in your purchase but some of the commercially issued takes have been on a number of other CDs and you might have some duplication.  

Radio » Star Spangled Radio Hour - Christmas With Bing Crosby » 25/12/2017 8:32 am

Our old friends at Star Spangled Radio Hour have come up with Bing from KMH of 24 December 1942.

Stream it or download for later listening from here.

They follow that up with Command Performance from the same date.

CHRISTMAS WITH BING CROSBY - KRAFT MUSIC HALL - Thursday, December 24, 1942 - 6:00 – 7:00 pm PWT Ken Carpenter, announcer, Bing Crosby, host, Fay Bainter, Jack Carson and Andrew Tombes, guests. With Janet Blair, The Music maids and Hal, The Charioteers and John Scott Trotter and his Orchestra

COMMAND PERFORMANCE  - Christmas Special - Thursday, December 24, 1942 - 8:00 – 9:00 pm PWT Aired simultaneously on (Blue) (CBS) (Mutual) (NBC). 

Ken Carpenter, announcer, Bob Hope, host. Introduction by Elmer Davis, Director, Office of War Information.With Bing Crosby, Dinah Shore, Red Skelton, Harriet Hilliard, Jack Benny, Fred Allen, Edgar Bergen and Charlie McCarthy, Charles Laughton, Ethel Waters, Ginny Simms, Harry Babbitt, The Andrews Sisters, the Charioteers, Spike Jones and his City Slickers, Kay Kyser and His Orchestra, and the 20th Century-Fox Studio Orchestra conducted by Alfred Newman

It seems that the Command Performance show was unique in two respects - it was broadcast simultaneously over the main (competing) networks, and it was broadcast to the "home" audience. This and much other information comes from the two hosts of Star Spangled Radio Hour.


Announcements » Bing Crosby Meets » 23/12/2017 12:01 pm

If any subscriber to this forum cannot access the programme and wishes to hear it they should contact me via the private message facility 
(Once you have logged in, click on my name and select "Send Private Message".

Artistic Legacy » Non Christmassy seasonal songs » 23/12/2017 11:39 am

I have occasional contacts with local and hospital radio services.

A week / ten days ago one contacted me. They thought that come a day or so after Christmas their listeners would have had enough of Christmas songs but thought it appropriate that they should have "Mr Christmas" singing something seasonal that was not specifically Christmas. Was there anything that I could suggest?

I offered -
Winter Wonderland, 
Let It Snow, Let It Snow, Let It Snow,
Frosty The Snowman,
Sleigh Bell Serenade,
Looks Like A Cold, Cold Winter,
The First Snowfall,
Little Jack Frost Get Lost,
A Marshmallow World

Seems they will be using Looks Like A Cold, Cold Winter as appropriate to the cold spell we have just had here in England (though forecasters predict a warmer spell). It will be mixed in with a number of other wintry items ranging from classical (Vivaldi) to modern pops.

Comment made "Bing really did sing about everything." 


General Discussion » CHRISTMAS 2017 » 20/12/2017 7:47 am

May I wish all visitors to this site, but especially those who contribute to it,
a very happy Christmas and a calm and peaceful New Year.

Richard Baker.

Recording » Well, Bust my buttons.... UMe is releasing "new" stuff on CD!!!! » 19/12/2017 11:11 am

Kevin wrote:

1) Where does this track list of the original album order come from??? All previous editions I have start with When I Take My Sugar To Tea and ends with Alabamy Bound.
2) At the very end of More Than You Know there appears to be a slight warble in the tape, noticeable in Bings voice and organ. It not present on my origional MCA CD version (the Mosaic box set must be a edit as its 2 minutes shorter). Tape degradation?? Assume its on everybody's copy and not just my pressing?

Yes,  the playing order of Alabamy Bound has been moved from the original but in my opinion a very minor detail, and yes there is a distinct wobble at the end of More Than You Know which could disturb those who are sensitive to such things. It might pass others by, and it is right at the end of the whole CD. Very odd, as there must be satisfactory versions from which to copy. For the rest I can only welcome this and Among My Souvenirs  which I have yet to fully absorb.

One extra comment. The moulded hubs in the sleeves hold all three CDs in place very firmly and I find it quite difficult to remove them. They seem to me to be at risk from damage unless removed with more than usual care. The fact that all three of my CDs are effected in this way seems to show some consistency.  

An oddity in the purchase / delivery arrangements. I bought from an Amazon "partner". Delivery from Canada was via Germany and arrived with a large yellow sticker which states "Goods do not meet the requirement of Article 9 and 10 of the Contract for the foundation of the European Community". No further explanation is given. 

Artistic Legacy » Bing Crosby as Christmas Singer: Conversation with Malcolm Macfarlane » 19/12/2017 12:14 am

Additionally, I have discovered in my own record collection versions by Robert Goulet and by (guess who) Rosemary Clooney (on her White Christmas Album).
When I have time I'll investigate on line possibilities.

Artistic Legacy » Bing Crosby as Christmas Singer: Conversation with Malcolm Macfarlane » 18/12/2017 12:11 am

Thank you for that link, Anton. The listing is certainly not exhaustive, and I know I have heard it from others, several in live performances. I have added this research to my ever expanding list of things to do!


Film » The King Of Jazz » 17/12/2017 11:57 am

Very good news. I have a very old and rather scratchy VHS copy (shortened in some way) which hardly merits playing. I very much look forward to seeing it in decent quality. 

Artistic Legacy » Bing Crosby as Christmas Singer: Conversation with Malcolm Macfarlane » 17/12/2017 11:53 am

Graham Pascoe wrote:

- - I believe the only version of 'White Christmas' with the verse which I've heard is one by Richard Tauber - -

I have a recording by the American operatic baritone Thomas Hampson, and as it happens I attended a concert (which was not primarily Christmas themed), last week, where the operatically inclined male soloist included it in a selection of operatic arias and songs from musicals.
On most, possibly all, occasions that I have heard the full version with the verse it was performed by what are frequently described as "serious" singers! Perhaps they are more inclined to sing precisely what they see on the page of sheet music rather than modify anything?

I believe the Tauber version dates from 1944.


New and Re-issued materials » Thoroughly Modern Bing » 12/12/2017 3:23 pm

Kevin, I think that you are correct.

The cover and the order of the track listing (as given for the MP3 version) suggest this is a straight CD issue of the LP issued on various labels (Pickwick, Stateside/EMI and Birchmount)  under the title Thoroughly Modern Bing  or Sing-along With Bing.
That issue omitted  Love is Blue.
The Laserlight CD A Visit To The Movies included Love is Blue but omitted I Call You Sunshine. 
Another CD Bing Crosby At His Best on Pickwick omitted Love Is Blue and Where The Rainbow Ends.
But it doesn't end there because there are alternative versions of High Hopes and Where The Rainbow Ends of which the latter has never been on CD.

It's just possible that the CD and the MP3 versions will differ as I have known CD versions which offer additional tracks. 
That's All I Want From You has never been issued.

From the listing for the MP3 version it seems likely that the absences will not be resolved.



Great way to spread the word, Anton. Hope you had a good audience.

Next time possibly you might think of showing Just For You with the local reference ("On The 10:10 from Tennessee") and it's up tempo numbers. 

New and Re-issued materials » Digital downloads of Holiday Inn & White Christmas » 11/12/2017 12:14 pm

Thank you "Brunswick78" for that helpful information. 

You say that UMG have issued the downloads, but the links you give go to qobuz.

This is a streaming and download service originating in France. I believe thay are well established and would think it likely that they have licences from the likes of UMG and others but I don't think there is any direct connection.

The advantage for British and European users (I don't think the service operates elsewhere) is that they claim higher audio quality than Spotify and others, with a FLAC option instead of MP3. If they have genuinely recoded the recordings in that format there should certainly be an improvement.

However the subscription is considerably greater.  Whether the improved audio quality is meaningful for older recordings is questionable, though it should certainly make a difference for recordings made into the stereo era, and qubuz also carry a number of Bing's other albums  
The service had a reasonably favourable review from the magazine "What HiFi?" a couple of years ago which is available on line here

In general most other streaming and download services offer MP3 files, where even the best are highly compressed, with some loss of audio quality, which can be detected in the case of full range stereo recordings played on good equipment. 


Recording » Well, Bust my buttons.... UMe is releasing "new" stuff on CD!!!! » 08/12/2017 11:13 am

Kevin wrote:

....purchased through Amazon third party again....might get in time for Christmas!!!

Me too. Much cheaper than Amazon themselves - and they were quicker off the mark in taking orders. But delivery could be three weeks (or more).


Links » White Christmas — Best Song Ever Written? » 02/12/2017 7:46 am

The above heading caught my eye during my regular trawl around the net.

It appears in the Idaho Senior Independent

If the measure is of pure success I suppose it is a claim that might have suppport but it would be truer if the headline were "Most Successful - - -".

What really would be "Best"? and what would be the measure? Could agreement ever be reached? So much influences ideas and opinions - the quality of the music - of the lyric - how the two come together, the effect on emotions and many other measures come together. A source for fruitful discussion but agreement is unlikely.   


New and Re-issued materials » High Tor » 27/11/2017 7:19 pm

My High Tor arrived about a couple of weeks ago from the manufacturers so yours, Jeremy, should be awaiting your return.

The absence of pre order options for the two BCE releases combined with the Amazon statement "There are currently no listings for this product" (which pops up if you click "available from these sellers")  look very odd.

They did offer an email notification option to be told when they have supplies though.

Other faults on the Amazon site. -
- They show three CDs instead of two, the third precisely replicating the second for "Among My Souvenirs"
- Charlie Parker is shown as the star on "New Tricks"!
- Clicking on Charlie Parker's music store brings up lots of Bing
It seems our man must have been living a double life. 


New and Re-issued materials » High Tor » 27/11/2017 4:00 pm

zanereed wrote:

My "High Tor" CD arrived today. The packaging was very simple - it consists of a simple cardboard sleeve (versus a traditional jewel case) and CD. Regardless, I look forward to listening to it tonight.

Just like a miniature LP! Think of all the space that could be saved. And my "jewel" cases always seem to break - some even being delivered that way. There is an easily read insert as well. If you carefully slit the shrink wrap along the opening and otherwise leave it in place it will protect the card from wear and tear.

Radio » Star Spangled Radio Hour » 21/11/2017 11:14 am

Problem resolved! Something called uBlock (which I didn't know I had) decided to block ads and active links on the site. Why I don't know and why it has sprung into action at this time is a mystery to me. Disabling it has resolved the problem of getting reactions from Star Spangled Radio Hour. I still get the message on the "Live" stream but the archived streams and the downloads all now work.

I remain puzzled as to when and how uBlock got onto both my computers. It was not a conscious act of mine! An internet search shows that it has a useful purpose but it has been developed since I acquired my computers so I'm mystified. 


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